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indy_kid
20-Apr-2012, 08:04
Seems there's no way readily obvious method to delete an ad once the item sells. Bugs me to see something of interest, read through a page or two of posts, only to find the item(s) have sold.

I guess the seller should alert the mods when an item sells so that they can delete the ad. Better still, let the seller manage their own ads. Either way would help clean up that part of the forum a bit.

Thoughts?

PS: Sorry for the typo in the headline! :rolleyes:

Old-N-Feeble
20-Apr-2012, 10:23
I don't think they should be deleted... perhaps closed but only 30 days after the item is bought or sold to openly resolve any issues which can't be dealt with discretely.

Jay DeFehr
20-Apr-2012, 12:13
I'm with O&F. There's some good information in some of these FS threads, but I agree with OP that there should be a way of indicating the status of the ad so interested parties don't waste a lot of time browsing sold items.

Michael Graves
20-Apr-2012, 12:36
The old posts are valuable for seeing what items brought in the past. This is good for setting a price if your selling and for getting an idea of a fair price if your buying. Perhaps there is a way to archive them without leaving them visible?

Darin Boville
20-Apr-2012, 15:05
Usually the seller posts and "item sold" post on their thread. I would NOT delete the old thread--for a market to work well both buyers and sellers need accurate pricing information!

--Darin

Henry Ambrose
20-Apr-2012, 17:11
Leave it alone.

This forum is not a classified site designed solely for your personal buying and selling pleasure.
The For Sale area is a side attraction or accessory, it is not the raison d'Ítre for this forum.

And welcome to the forum. (seriously)

I am not a moderator, or necessarily playing at forum police - this is just an FYI. This place has been around quite a while and somehow lately we seem to be attracting lots of buy/sell activity along with multiple requests to alter the way the forum operates to suit someone's personal agenda, usually a new subscriber. I suspect such requests are innocent and well meaning but really, "how to run the forum" is well figured out here. The moderators have other things to deal with and I think do not need to re-consider their operating plan based on whims of others who have no responsibility for operating and maintaining the site.

Old-N-Feeble
20-Apr-2012, 17:15
Henry's right, IMHO.

indy_kid
21-Apr-2012, 09:30
"Well figured out" doesn't imply it's the optimal method of doing things, Henry, and it's rather insulting to refer to my request as a "whim". It's a legitimate issue and appears to have some merit, as others seem to show with their comments.

I have no problem with leaving the posts on the board; in fact, based on the comments above, I'd agree that is better than removing them. I'd simply like something to show an item has sold without having to scroll through all of the subsequent posts before I find one that says the item(s) sold. It could be something as simple as a color change of the title, or dimming the post title. Neither are difficult to implement, and it would solve what I believe to be an existing problem with the "accessory".

Yes, the mods have other things to do, Hank, but that doesn't preclude their fixing what may be problematic issues with any part of the site! I have no problem taking on some of that responsibility, if that will make you happy. Perhaps the best solution is for the OPs to manage their own posts, and mark the ones sold when the time comes, without any need to bother the mods! That may take some time to work out the coding, but a few hours up front can prevent repeated requests to delete or otherwise mark FS posts to show the item(s) have sold. Really, Henry, you make it sound like re-coding the OS of the site to require dozens of man-days of labor when it might take nothing more than a single additional line of code.

I suggest we let the mods decide what is most important, where they should expend their resources and allow them to modify the operating plan as they see fit - even little "whims" like mine.

BrianShaw
21-Apr-2012, 09:43
This forum is not a classified site designed solely for your personal buying and selling pleasure.
The For Sale area is a side attraction or accessory, it is not the raison d'Ítre for this forum.

And welcome to the forum. (seriously)

Ditto.

BrianShaw
21-Apr-2012, 09:44
Perhaps the best solution is for the OPs to manage their own posts, and mark the ones sold when the time comes, without any need to bother the mods!

Ditto. But that can be done today, can't it. So what's the issue?

Randomly selected example: http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?86675-FS-45cm-RD-Artar-amp-Xenar-300mm-in-Copal-3&p=854329&viewfull=1#post854329

Richard Rankin
21-Apr-2012, 11:19
On APUG, which I think uses the same software, you can 'close the thread' when the item is sold. Here on LFPF, the mods have that disabled, so the person posting the ad can't close it to further comments. I doubt the mods want to go and fiddle with 50 postings a day in the Classifieds but I have no idea why they disabled the 'close thread' feature for the original poster. I'm sure there is a logical reason for it.

Personally, I like the old ads there. I've learned heaps of things from them about many lenses and cameras.

Richard

Old-N-Feeble
21-Apr-2012, 11:40
I wouldn't want classified ads closed less than 30 days after a deal is made. It seems appropriate to leave ads open to comments for a reasonable amount of time. Otherwise no one will ever know how deals turned out for both parties. Even if other threads are started for follow-up to deals... those are "disconnected from" those deals... folks may never find the new threads/comments.

Henry Ambrose
21-Apr-2012, 12:18
"Well figured out" doesn't imply it's the optimal method of doing things, Henry, and it's rather insulting to refer to my request as a "whim". It's a legitimate issue and appears to have some merit, as others seem to show with their comments.

I have no problem with leaving the posts on the board; in fact, based on the comments above, I'd agree that is better than removing them. I'd simply like something to show an item has sold without having to scroll through all of the subsequent posts before I find one that says the item(s) sold. It could be something as simple as a color change of the title, or dimming the post title. Neither are difficult to implement, and it would solve what I believe to be an existing problem with the "accessory".

Yes, the mods have other things to do, Hank, but that doesn't preclude their fixing what may be problematic issues with any part of the site! I have no problem taking on some of that responsibility, if that will make you happy. Perhaps the best solution is for the OPs to manage their own posts, and mark the ones sold when the time comes, without any need to bother the mods! That may take some time to work out the coding, but a few hours up front can prevent repeated requests to delete or otherwise mark FS posts to show the item(s) have sold. Really, Henry, you make it sound like re-coding the OS of the site to require dozens of man-days of labor when it might take nothing more than a single additional line of code.

I suggest we let the mods decide what is most important, where they should expend their resources and allow them to modify the operating plan as they see fit - even little "whims" like mine.

Your response illustrates my point better than I could have imagined.

All you have to do is PM the seller to see if the item is still available.
This place is not "all about you". Stick around, make some contribution of some kind or at least take part in the conversations here before you take charge.

D. Bryant
21-Apr-2012, 19:36
"Well figured out" doesn't imply it's the optimal method of doing things, Henry, and it's rather insulting to refer to my request as a "whim". It's a legitimate issue and appears to have some merit, as others seem to show with their comments.
.

Judging from your posting history, it seems your interest in this forum is to sell equipment. I wouldn't complain too much about the status quo since your 'ads' here are free. So yeah your request comes across as self serving.

Don Bryant

indy_kid
22-Apr-2012, 11:24
Your response illustrates my point better than I could have imagined.

All you have to do is PM the seller to see if the item is still available.
This place is not "all about you". Stick around, make some contribution of some kind or at least take part in the conversations here before you take charge.


Then you've missed the point completely, Hank. Do people wish to read through several - sometimes pages - of posts before reaching the one that says, "Item(s) sold." I don't think so. I have stated that I have no problem with the posts remaining; I simply want an indicator at the title level - no need to open the thread - to show the item(s) have sold. Again, grey out the post, change the color of the post, etc. That would not be difficult to implement.

I can imagine just how well your method would work! PM to seller: "Hey, did your item(s) sell?" Response from seller: "Yes, I posted that clearly in the thread! You obviously didn't take the time to read through the thread before bugging me, did you?"

indy_kid
22-Apr-2012, 11:27
Judging from your posting history, it seems your interest in this forum is to sell equipment. I wouldn't complain too much about the status quo since your 'ads' here are free. So yeah your request comes across as self serving.

Don Bryant

So, Don, you're able to discern all of my interests in this forum, the categories I choose to follow closely, based solely on what I've posted? Really?

BTW, my comment was not a complaint, but a suggestion to improve usability. Is it forbidden to suggest improvements?

D. Bryant
22-Apr-2012, 16:17
So, Don, you're able to discern all of my interests in this forum, the categories I choose to follow closely, based solely on what I've posted? Really?



In your case, yes. As I said, your suggestion coupled to your FS posts come across as self serving.

cabbiinc
23-Apr-2012, 19:31
It is kind of overwhelming to go to a for sale section of a given forum and see page after page of entries without any indication of sold or available to it. Personally I've given up on buying anything from anywhere with a similar for sale structure, but then again I don't come here to buy gear.