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Lenny Eiger
27-Jan-2012, 20:40
It's just a coincidence really. I made this demo a couple of weeks ago and just figured out how to use iMovie. (It helps to have a 15-year old daughter!) I just happened to have finished it right after Slideshow Bob finished his.

Like Bob, I was asked to do this a lot of times. I finally did it, and here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APSzB0nX5Vo

I hope its useful to someone.

Lenny

meerkat
27-Jan-2012, 23:22
That's exactly how it's done.

It looks like the Lippincotts taught you well ;)

Andrea Gazzoni
28-Jan-2012, 00:56
Thank you Lenny for such an interesting tutorial, must try the anti bubbles trick

Leigh
28-Jan-2012, 01:15
Great video, Lenny.

Thank you.

- Leigh

Sideshow Bob
28-Jan-2012, 09:09
Good job Lenny.

Gale

Lenny Eiger
28-Jan-2012, 09:14
Thanks for the kind words.

Lenny

Peter Langham
28-Jan-2012, 12:08
Great video. thanks. The best part is all the suggested videos that come up on u tube.
They are all about drumming!

sanking
30-Jan-2012, 15:09
Lenny,

Nice video. And congratulations to your daughter.

A question. In the video you at first refer to the thin plastic that is placed over the negative as acetate, then correct to Mylar, which is a brand name of poliester.

Question, is it safe to use acetate in fluid mounting?

Sandy

johnmsanderson
30-Jan-2012, 15:57
Awesome video.

It convinced me: I am never buying a drum scanner.

But if anyone is going to drum scan for me, it's you.

davisg2370
30-Jan-2012, 16:47
I have a question, I am still learning to mount on a drum and I get long bubbles on the edges of the film. They are not in the image, but rather, against the side where the gap between the acetate and the drum are at their greatest. Is this normal, or do I need to learn how to eliminate them completely?

Lenny Eiger
30-Jan-2012, 17:41
Lenny,

Nice video. And congratulations to your daughter.

Thanks!


Question, is it safe to use acetate in fluid mounting?
Sandy

I'm not much up on the different plastics, as I am sure everyone can tell. I checked with Aztek, and it is indeed, mylar.

It's all just thick saran wrap to me. As long as its nice and clean that's all I need.

Lenny

Lenny Eiger
30-Jan-2012, 17:42
Awesome video.
It convinced me: I am never buying a drum scanner.
But if anyone is going to drum scan for me, it's you.

Must have been the music?

Thank you. I'd be glad to...

Lenny

Lenny Eiger
30-Jan-2012, 17:47
I have a question, I am still learning to mount on a drum and I get long bubbles on the edges of the film. They are not in the image, but rather, against the side where the gap between the acetate and the drum are at their greatest. Is this normal, or do I need to learn how to eliminate them completely?

If they sneak into the image, you will have to spot that out. It isn't always so easy. It can be pretty annoying...

I would suggest that the springs on your mounting station are a little weak... In the demo I place my hand on the top rod and press a little extra... and that helps. You may also want to increase the amount of fluid you use. Make sure when you tape, you do it very straight and pull hard.

If the long bubbles are on the ends - then I would suggest you try and get a little more mylar at the back. You are fighting against the film wanting to keep from curling all the way on to the drum. Use a little less tape at the beginning and have more mylar at the end... and then pull hard with the first pieces of tape...

Hope that helps.

Lenny

Peter J. De Smidt
30-Jan-2012, 18:04
Great video, Lenny!

vinny
30-Jan-2012, 22:35
I have a question, I am still learning to mount on a drum and I get long bubbles on the edges of the film. They are not in the image, but rather, against the side where the gap between the acetate and the drum are at their greatest. Is this normal, or do I need to learn how to eliminate them completely?

lots of tape. I use Tesa tape because it stretches. Tear off 3 inch pieces and stick one end on the mylar right up to the edge of the film then pull tight while holding one finger on that spot. This gets almost all the bubbles out. I sometimes have tape every inch or so along the opposite ends of the film, especially when mounting commercially processed film that has those fucking claw marks on the corners. Those holes cause lots of frustration especially when they're in the image area.

Lenny Eiger
7-Feb-2012, 22:05
I hate those claw marks! There's just about nothing you can do. I've heard about some folks who tape a pair of pliers and press on the film to try and flatten it... Yikes!

Lenny

coops
10-Feb-2012, 04:38
Thanks for the video. If I ever think about getting a drum scanner again I will watch this video and remind myself why I should not. I am way too clumsy and do not have the patience to mount a negative the way you demonstrated. I will continue to pay someone else who can.

John Flavell
10-Feb-2012, 06:47
Now I have a better understanding of the cost of a drum scan. It takes a bit of experience just to get through mounting.

Is there a demo somewhere on fluid mounting a flatbed?

Thanks, Lenny, very helpful.

adam satushek
10-Feb-2012, 08:27
Thanks Lenny! Great video. I'm new to drum scanning and starting to get the hang of mounting. Not as difficult as I imagined...but still run into issues sometimes. I have adopted your method of using short pieces of kami tape to stretch the trailing end of the mylar before sealing. Its especially useful when mounting 8x10 or 4 4x5's at a time.

Thanks!

Lenny Eiger
10-Feb-2012, 11:26
Now I have a better understanding of the cost of a drum scan. It takes a bit of experience just to get through mounting.

Is there a demo somewhere on fluid mounting a flatbed?

Thanks, Lenny, very helpful.

John,
A quick Google search on wet mounting flatbed revealed a number of them, including a couple from Aztek, some from other wet mounting device vendors.

Have fun!

Lenny

John Flavell
10-Feb-2012, 20:29
Lenny, thanks, I appreciate that. I'll check it out.

I'm going to borrow a 4990 from a friend and I'm wondering if I should try a bit of 4x5 wet mounting with it. More concerned about messing up the scanner.