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gmed
26-Jun-2011, 08:30
Which is a better lens? Rodenstck 150 5.6 or Nikon 150mm 5.6?

Both have similar image circles at f/22.

Gem Singer
26-Jun-2011, 08:37
Rodenstock made (makes) several types of f5.6 150 lenses. Which one are you referring to?

What do you mean by "better lens"?

Sevo
26-Jun-2011, 08:39
Neither is a very good door stop - these are quite tiny, you may have to go for a 600mm for that purpose. Or what were you thinking of?

gmed
26-Jun-2011, 08:39
The N version. Not the S. I know the S a sharper lens.

What I mean is if you had a choice, which one would you buy?

John Kasaian
26-Jun-2011, 08:41
The one in the best condition. If identical, then the cheapest.

IanG
26-Jun-2011, 08:44
The Rodenstock 150mm Sironar N, I went for it and 25 years later I've no regrets :D Still just as good.

Ian

Sevo
26-Jun-2011, 08:46
The one in the best condition. If identical, then the cheapest.

Agreed (and the same goes for the Symmar S MC). Provided that the OP intends to use it for 4x5 with regular movements - larger formats or architecture/industry work with extreme movements would need a different lens type with more coverage...

gmed
26-Jun-2011, 08:49
Thank you John and Ian.

If I needed a door stop, I would spend $0.25 on a brick!

gmed
26-Jun-2011, 08:52
This is going on a Chamonix 4x5. I intend on using it for Landscape mainly. I use nikon on digital and know their reputation, but Rodenstock is completely new to me. this is the reason I ask.

Btw, thank you Sevo.

Gem Singer
26-Jun-2011, 08:54
The Rodenstock Sironar N, or the newer Rodenstock Apo Sironar N?

If I had to choose between two lenses , I would select the newest one that I could purchase at the best price. All of the big four lens manufacturers make (made) excellent lenses.

Personally, I own/use the Nikon/Nikkor f5.6 150W. I prefer Nikon lenses. However, that's a personal choice.

John NYC
26-Jun-2011, 09:14
Rodenstock, Schneider, Nikon and Fuji (a.k.a. the big four) all have steller reputations for LF lenses.

gmed
26-Jun-2011, 09:24
It is the Apo-Sironar-N.

Then I'll get which ever is less expensive.

Greg Y
26-Jun-2011, 09:55
Though not on your list.....for landscapes....I'm a big fan of the G-Claron 150....tiny, inexpensive, sharp. I use it on both 4x5 and 5x7...

Leigh
26-Jun-2011, 11:18
The Rodenstock Sironar N, or the newer Rodenstock Apo Sironar N?
Or the Rodenstock 150 Apo-Sironar-S, which I have.

Newer than the Apo-Sironar-N, and an absolutely superb lens.

BTW, don't get confused by the Sinaron name, which is Sinar's rebrand of the Rodenstock lenses.
The Sinar Apo-Sinaron-S is the Rodenstock Apo-Sironar-N, not the Apo-Sironar-S.

- Leigh

gmed
27-Jun-2011, 23:57
Agreed (and the same goes for the Symmar S MC). Provided that the OP intends to use it for 4x5 with regular movements - larger formats or architecture/industry work with extreme movements would need a different lens type with more coverage...

by different, do you mean different 150 with larger image circle or 120 or 90mm?

I dont plan on doing a whole lot of architectural. mainly landscape.

Duane Polcou
28-Jun-2011, 01:30
I used to have a Rodenstock Apo Sironar S ED, which is absolutely breathtaking at infinity. The sharpest, most 3-dimensional lens I've ever used. But when focused close, I found sharpness to be a tad off. I now use a 150mm Schneider Symmar-S MC, and at mid range stops (11, 16, 22) it's sharpness and resolution are nearly as amazing. Not too shabby focused closer, as well, although no substitute for a true macro.

Ole Tjugen
28-Jun-2011, 11:49
by different, do you mean different 150 with larger image circle or 120 or 90mm?

I dont plan on doing a whole lot of architectural. mainly landscape.

Just as stated - a different lens type with greater angle of coverage.

"Standard" lenses are more or less all Plasmat-type, with a couple of Dagors and Tessars added. Tessar-type lenses have least coverage, Dagors more, and Plasmats (generally) most. If you were to pick a lens for lots of movements, you would need something like a Super-Symmar XL which is a completely different lens design with a lot more coverage.

Kirk Fry
29-Jun-2011, 22:49
The plain old Sironars had lens separation problems. I'd get the Nikon. KFry

jwanerman
1-Jul-2011, 09:19
I have used a Caltar 150mm ( nee Rodenstock-N ) F: 5.6 since I purchased it new in 1988. So far, the lens and copal shutter have performed flawlessly. Both Rodenstock and Nikon products at this focal length should give superb results.

E. von Hoegh
1-Jul-2011, 09:46
FWIW, you might be surprised how nice an old convertible Symmar can be. Converted to 265, it makes a nice portrait lens.