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Brian C. Miller
15-Nov-2010, 21:28
For years I have loved my Filson wading jacket (http://www.filson.com/products/wading-jacket.10027.html?fromCat=true&fvalsProduct=mens/coats-jackets/cover-cloth&fmetaProduct=101114) and a mole skin hunting vest for carrying my 4x5 accessories. Nice large pockets can hold film holders and plenty of accessories. But today I saw these Scott eVest jackets (http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/subindex_jackets_vests.shtml), and they look incredible! 37 pockets? Or a trench coat with 33 pockets that eliminates a carry-on bag? That coat looks good enough for 8x10!

sultanofcognac
17-Nov-2010, 04:29
Dunno about my 8 x 10 gear, but it fits my iPad. . . I'm getting one!

Frank Petronio
17-Nov-2010, 06:24
I've noticed a huge increase of online ads for them since I visited their website, it must have installed some sort of cookie or done something to flag me and now Google and Facebook are smart enough to be tracking my history.

Slick.

Scary.

Illegal? Our legislators are too stupid to even grasp what they are doing to us.

William Whitaker
17-Nov-2010, 06:47
Ditto what Frank said. I'd never seen their ads before, but now they seem to be all over the place. Predatory marketing...

jp
17-Nov-2010, 07:40
Looks like some very nice jackets! I'll definitely consider them next time I need a winter jacket or sport coat.

I have a quilted orange hunting vest that I use in the fall that has big pockets in the front inside and out and has a big pocket facing back that goes all the way around to the other side of the vest. It's for putting dead birds in I think. It does a great job with 4x5 holders, lenses, and accessories. Probably not quite big enough for 8x10 holders.

Frank Petronio
17-Nov-2010, 08:28
Let's kill the spam, here's an email to share:

Dear Scott,

I visited your website once, based on a friend's post about how nice your jackets are for travel. Nice merchandise but... Now every commercial website I visit has a SCOTTEVEST Google ad, as well as my Facebook sidebar.

To me this is too aggressive and in my face. I feel like my information and privacy has been violated.

While I understand that other businesses collect my browsing history, and that Google and Facebook use my information to feed targeted ads to me, I find this sudden barrage of ads from one source a major turn-off.

It makes me NOT want to ever visit your website again, and most certainly never to do business with you. You've lost me as a customer. And you're probably paying your incompetent internet marketing spam jockeys way too much for every click.

Because now when I click on a SCOTTEVEST ad, it's simply to run up your bill.

Frank

Jason Greenberg Motamedi
17-Nov-2010, 08:37
I use Adblock+, a free add-on with Firefox and rarely see advertisements while browsing, so I am always puzzled when people complain. If it annoys you, just avoid them. All it takes is a moment. If you are worried about cookies, there are lots of add-ons to deal with them...

jp
17-Nov-2010, 08:59
Frank, what happens is Scottevest probably advertises with facebook. I've seen the same with overstock.com and numerous other companies. Then you log into facebook or your unique web browser gets identified by facebook with a cookie.

Then advertising supported websites outsource their advertising to a company like google or facebook. Those two companies choose what ads to put on the advertising supported website as you view them. If they choose facebook, facebook will then see that it's Frank visiting them because facebook already recognizes you, and tailors the ads to something you have shown interest in by your browsing. The advertiser has no idea where there ads show up on the Internet, nor does the advertiser supported website know what ads are going to be showing, except for some basic content guidelines.

Google uses search history, google toolbar, google apps and gmail to make that correlation rather than the facebook login.

Targeted advertising is a little unsettling, but effective. Untargeted advertising is basically a waste of money online.

The best solution is to purge your cookies and saved logins, then do your facebooking either with a separate brower or a secure/private tab within your existing brower.

Frank Petronio
17-Nov-2010, 09:14
Yeah I know but these guys seem to have flooded me, every ad is for them!

Jim Michael
17-Nov-2010, 10:13
Need to start International Ad-Click Week.

Brian C. Miller
17-Nov-2010, 14:14
Actually, Google was tracking you the whole time. A while ago I went to the Jeep website. What do I see every place now? Jeep ads. Finally I tossed my cookies. (browser, that is)

Cookie Monster from AMPsoft (http://www.ampsoft.net/utilities/CookieMonster.php)

Mike Anderson
17-Nov-2010, 16:32
Slick.

Scary.


Very:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703940904575395073512989404.html

Appearently dictionary.com is one of the biggest tracking cookie planters, a test showed one visit there planted 223 tracking cookies.

edit add: if you want to continue discussing the subject of online tracking I started a thread in the lounge:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?p=650446#post650446

Everyone is invited.


...Mike

Dave Jeffery
18-Nov-2010, 02:33
I just told a friend last week that every website that I visit has the Go Pro Hi-Def camera advertised and he filled me in on internet targeted marketing. I had been researching Red 4K digital video cameras.

Just a new type of ad to ignore.

Struan Gray
18-Nov-2010, 03:26
Zap cookies. And don't forget the flash cookies too - Adobe has an app for them.

And move to Germany. The zeitgeist there is very anti-tracking. eBay are sensitive to the issue: the UK and US sites welcome me back with false warmth, burying me in suggestions and reminders of things to look at based on my previous browsing. eBay.de don't give even a hint that they know who I am (but they do :-).

patrickjames
20-Nov-2010, 00:00
I have a Willis and Gieger jacket that I bought over 15 years ago and it still is going strong. Egyptian cotton with a super tight weave that makes it waterproof and it has more pockets than I know what to do with. Think photo vest that goes down to mid thigh. Amazing quality, but I guess they are not made anymore. It will probably last me the rest of my life. Looks good too.;)

Brian C. Miller
20-Nov-2010, 03:16
I did a Google search and came up with Lost Worlds Outfitters (http://www.lostworldsinc.com/Hunting_Safari_Bush_Clothing.htm). The seem to be producing some similar styles to Willis & Geiger. Take a look at the Kilimanjaro and the Hunter Jacket.