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lilmsmaggie
12-Aug-2010, 11:01
I'm a long-time PC user, I mean Waaay back -- we're talkin DOS :eek:

Anyway, I'm having a time trying to decide if I want to stay with Window's OS, i.e Win7 based machine, or move to a Mac.

Ultimately, I want to be able to process and output prints from scanned 4x5 negs.

At the moment, I’m running 32-bit version of Windows Vista with 4 Gigs of RAM.
Photoshop CS3 doesn’t like it and neither do I at least not for image processing
(32-bit Vista only addresses 3 Gigs).

I considered upgrading to the 64-bit version of Vista prior to the release of WIN7 but got so frustrated with it that I actually sent an email to Microsoft saying that I was fed up with all the glitches and updates, etc. and that I was throwing in the towel and moving to a different OS.

However, I need to rethink that strategy and consider the cost effectiveness of such a move.

I’d like to hear from Win7 users that are using Photoshop CS3,4 or 5 and Lightroom, etc., and their experiences good or bad. I’d also like to hear what configuration they finally settled on that improved image processing.

Daniel_Buck
12-Aug-2010, 11:11
honestly, I don't think you are going to get any better or worse performance in photoshop on mac or windows. I've used photoshop on windows and mac (similarly spec'd machines) and I've not noticed much of a difference.

Just make sure you are running 64 bit, and get as much ram as you can (8-gigs or more!). working with big image files, you'll appreciate the ram. With a decent processor, and the access to alot of ram, that's going to be your best boost in performance. You could also go to solid state harddrives for your main OS and primary working drive(s) for yet another boost in performance (loading, and saving, and disk-caching)

As for the mac/windows debate, it sounds like you are wanting to try mac, so maybe do that. But I don't think a mac will be better/worse performance than a similar spec windows machine. A year or two ago I would have said windows hands down, because photoshop was not yet 64 bit for mac, but now that they are both 64 bit, I'd say go with which ever OS you'll enjoy best.

But keep in mind any software that you already have purchased, you'll probably have to re-purchase it for Mac, at least I think you'll have to, I could be wrong.

lilmsmaggie
12-Aug-2010, 11:16
But keep in mind any software that you already have purchased, you'll probably have to re-purchase it for Mac, at least I think you'll have to, I could be wrong.

The new machine will be dedicated to image processing. I haven't bought any new software for sometime. I have a new copy of CS4 Design (Student Edition) that's still shrink-wrapped. Maybe someone out there still interested in CS4 might want to buy.

Ditto for LR2 - still new in the box ;)

Ken Lee
12-Aug-2010, 11:32
Generous memory, a huge dedicated scratch file, and fast disk speed are what determine Photoshop comfort...

... and for the rest of us, there's the Guide File Workflow (http://www.westcoastimaging.com/wci/page/info/photoshoptip/podcast_guidefile.html) approach, courtesy of Pacific Imaging.

PenGun
12-Aug-2010, 12:05
I'm a long-time PC user, I mean Waaay back -- we're talkin DOS :eek:

Anyway, I'm having a time trying to decide if I want to stay with Window's OS, i.e Win7 based machine, or move to a Mac.

Ultimately, I want to be able to process and output prints from scanned 4x5 negs.

At the moment, I’m running 32-bit version of Windows Vista with 4 Gigs of RAM.
Photoshop CS3 doesn’t like it and neither do I at least not for image processing
(32-bit Vista only addresses 3 Gigs).

I considered upgrading to the 64-bit version of Vista prior to the release of WIN7 but got so frustrated with it that I actually sent an email to Microsoft saying that I was fed up with all the glitches and updates, etc. and that I was throwing in the towel and moving to a different OS.

However, I need to rethink that strategy and consider the cost effectiveness of such a move.

I’d like to hear from Win7 users that are using Photoshop CS3,4 or 5 and Lightroom, etc., and their experiences good or bad. I’d also like to hear what configuration they finally settled on that improved image processing.

You need 64 bit. You are only using about 3 Gig of that RAM and that only because windows 32 is tricky with memory. Otherwise 2 Gig would have been tops.

Bill_1856
12-Aug-2010, 15:21
I can't speak for CS5, but Windows 7 is a disaster with PS Elements!

Michael Rosenberg
12-Aug-2010, 17:42
I upgraded to Win 7 x64 running CS5 from XP/CS3. You should consider 8 gig of RAM. Win 7 can take up to 4 gig of ram, and CS 5 can use 4 gig. Also consider a dual threading processor, and 4 cooling fans!

Win 7 is great - very stable, and as you add hardware it recognizes the device and downloads the most recent driver from the vendor. I never ran Vista, so I cannot compare. But I have to say my computer is no longer taxed working with larger images. And by the way, my first computer was an 86 with only one floppy drive; you had to swap out the program disk for the data disk.

Mike

lilmsmaggie
13-Aug-2010, 12:07
Well, I'm reassessing making the move to 64-bit Win 7 especially after reading a review on CNET about these new PC's:

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/origin-genesis-intel-core/4505-3118_7-33995808.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Origin PC Manufacturer's website: http://www.originpc.com

Expensive but I'm sure it screams. I could probably build one cheaper but I have to admit its very inticing :D

jp
13-Aug-2010, 12:59
I'm more of a linux fanboy than a Mac or Microsoft fan, but I am actually pretty impressed with 64-bit win7 as a desktop for working on photos.

I'm using a quad-core AMD phenom system with 8GB ram, ocz solid state boot/OS, 1tb western digital for programs and storage. It is fast and reliable.

I skipped over vista, 2000, and never really liked winXP. There's no epson 7600 driver for the win7 as it's an aging printer, but I still have my XP machine for printing to that.

sczin
13-Aug-2010, 18:46
I've got an i7 processor with 12gig of ram, windows 7, cs5. My scans are 900mb & some PS files can be as large as 3.5 gig. Performance has been great. No regrets with my setup.

D. Bryant
13-Aug-2010, 18:53
Well, I'm reassessing making the move to 64-bit Win 7 especially after reading a review on CNET about these new PC's:



This mobo is tempting me to consider upgrading now.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/05/evgas-dual-cpu-classified-sr-2-motherboard-put-to-the-test-wor/

Don Bryant (- a.k.a. Don Bryant)

lilmsmaggie
13-Aug-2010, 20:06
I've got an i7 processor with 12gig of ram, windows 7, cs5. My scans are 900mb & some PS files can be as large as 3.5 gig. Performance has been great. No regrets with my setup.

Sweet!

Jeremy Moore
14-Aug-2010, 06:07
quad i5 with 8 gigs of fast ram on fast hard drives. cs5 open in 1 sec. full rez imacon scans are tossed around with ease.

win7/x64

Brian Ellis
14-Aug-2010, 08:20
I saw a book in Barnes and Noble the other day for people who switch from Windows to Mac. I figure that if enough people have enough problems with the switch to justify publishing a book it probably isn't that painless to do (of course now someone will chime in saying they did it and it's easier than chewing gum, oh well). Before I went to the trouble of learning a new system, not to mention replacing all my programs for Windows with ones for a Mac and installing them, I'd have to be very very sure that the Mac was going to cure some major problem I was having with Windows.

I have Vista 64 bit on a Dell something or other with 8 gigs and have had no major problems, a few niggling little ones that I'd probably have on any computer.

Daniel_Buck
14-Aug-2010, 10:02
I'm more of a linux fanboy than a Mac or Microsoft fan

so am I, I run Linux at work using Nuke to process images. But the original poster is wanting to use Photoshop, so that kind of puts linux out of the picture, unfortunately.