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Jon Wilson
8-Nov-2008, 13:34
Does anybody have any experience with scanning 11x14 film? The only scanner which I could locate at a "reasonable" price appeared to be an Epson XL 10000. I would prefer to scan the film as opposed to stitching parts together. Recommendations are appreciated. Thanks. Jon

Greg Lockrey
8-Nov-2008, 13:37
The issue would be getting a film holder but the platten is more than large enough. I suppose something could be geary rigged.

erie patsellis
8-Nov-2008, 14:19
Heidelberg/Linotype Opal Ultra, when you can find one.

sanking
8-Nov-2008, 15:38
If you don't plan to make prints at more than about 2-3X the Epson XL 10000 should do a good job for you.

For prints larger than 2-3X a professional flatbed or drum scan would give better results.

Sandy





Does anybody have any experience with scanning 11x14 film? The only scanner which I could locate at a "reasonable" price appeared to be an Epson XL 10000. I would prefer to scan the film as opposed to stitching parts together. Recommendations are appreciated. Thanks. Jon

Lenny Eiger
8-Nov-2008, 15:59
Does anybody have any experience with scanning 11x14 film? The only scanner which I could locate at a "reasonable" price appeared to be an Epson XL 10000. I would prefer to scan the film as opposed to stitching parts together. Recommendations are appreciated. Thanks. Jon

I just had Bill Morse of morseeditions.com do some scans of 8x20 film for me on his Howtek 7500. They were truly spectacular. Grain very tight, gonna make some very large prints from them... it was totally worth it......

Lenny

IanMazursky
8-Nov-2008, 19:05
The Howtek 7500 drum scanner is fantastic for ULF film.
Its one of the few drum scanners that can scan up to 16x20" and easily fit in a house or small office. Only 300 or so pounds!

The 7500's large drum can fit up to a 16x20" of film. Assuming you have the mylar overlay to cover it and someone to help. Smaller film like 12x20 is easier.
I can fit 1x 11x14 on the large drum at a time. Depending on the final size needed, the scan time can range from 20 minutes to over an hour+.
Its worth it though, the detail is fantastic, especially mounted with Kami.
There are no soft or out of focus spots and no calibration lines like flat beds tends to show.

argos33
8-Nov-2008, 19:14
I have had experience using the 10000XL to scan 8x10 negatives and I was disappointed with the results. It seemed like the "autofocus" function did not work all that well and the scans were noticeably softer than those from the V750. For small enlargements or reproductions it would probably be ok, but I would sooner save for something better.

Evan

8x10 user
12-Nov-2008, 14:46
The Eversmart Supreme can scan an 11x14 at resolutions up to 5,600 PPI

sanking
12-Nov-2008, 16:04
That might be a bit overkill. A 11X14" B&W negative scanned at 16 bit with resolution of 5600 spi gives a final file size of about 9 gig.

Course, if you have a system that handles files that size you could make a final print of 14.6' X 18.6' at 360 dpi.

Sandy King




The Eversmart Supreme can scan an 11x14 at resolutions up to 5,600 PPI

Don Hutton
12-Nov-2008, 16:22
The Howtek 7500 drum scanner is fantastic for ULF film.
Its one of the few drum scanners that can scan up to 16x20" and easily fit in a house or small office. Only 300 or so pounds!

The 7500's large drum can fit up to a 16x20" of film. Assuming you have the mylar overlay to cover it and someone to help. Smaller film like 12x20 is easier.
I can fit 1x 11x14 on the large drum at a time. Depending on the final size needed, the scan time can range from 20 minutes to over an hour+.
Its worth it though, the detail is fantastic, especially mounted with Kami.
There are no soft or out of focus spots and no calibration lines like flat beds tends to show.

I can't imagine trying to wrap a 16x20 on a drum... that has to take some skill!

8x10 user
12-Nov-2008, 20:32
I suppose even if you had a 300 Apo-W there would be no point to scanning at more then about 3,500 PPI.

What is the maximum resolution with the large drum on the 7500?

sanking
12-Nov-2008, 20:42
I think you are about spot on. No way in the world for one to get more than 60 lppm (3000 spi) on a piece of ULF film in real life photography. In fact, it is virtually impossible to get 40 lppm (2000 spi), even with the best lenses you can find. For that reason I think it is a total waste of time to scan a piece of ULF B&W film at more than 2400 spi.

Could be wrong, but I believe the maximum resolution of the Howtek 7500 is 5000 spi, or same as the 6500.

Sandy







I suppose even if you had a 300 Apo-W there would be no point to scanning at more then about 3,500 PPI.

What is the maximum resolution with the large drum on the 7500?

8x10 user
12-Nov-2008, 20:54
I thought the resolution was lower when using the large drum.

Lenny Eiger
16-Nov-2008, 14:13
I thought the resolution was lower when using the large drum.

It is, it is 2500, I believe, maybe someone who has one of these could confirm. However, 14 inches times 2500 = 35000 pixels, or in round numbers, a 100 inch print at 350 dpi.

Did you want to make something larger?

The 7500 has a couple of advantages - the drum makes for very sharp scans as the focus is static (on the drum surface), the liquid mounting helps with scratches and dust, it has aperture-grain matching and the PMT sensors are fantastic. All you need is an experienced operator or some of your own testing and you're good to go...

Lenny