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Terry Hull
4-Sep-2008, 15:16
I am trying the new film in 4X5, but unsure on development/developer, as my Kodak TMax developer says for roll film only. I typically use rodinal or D-76, for FP4 sheet film, and wonder if they work for 400 TMAX, and normal development times? The Kodak website was unhelpful with these developers used with 400TMAX.

Thanks.

venchka
4-Sep-2008, 15:28
Here's what I have read, NOT what I have done:

Sandy King, in his great articles about the new Tmax 400, said that he rated the film at 400 and developed in D-76 1:1 for 10:30. John Sexton was quoted (working from memory-YMMV) as rating the film at 250, D-76 1:1 and I think I remember 7:30 minutes.

I have a friend who is using D-76 1:1 and the Kodak time.

BTW, Kodak lists times for their developers and the new Tmax 400. At least they did last week.

Richard Wasserman
4-Sep-2008, 15:51
D-76 should work very well. I have been using 4x5 TMY-2 and have tried Xtol 1:2, Pyrocat, and Barry Thornton's Divided D-23, and they all work well. I personally like Pyrocat HD the best, but if I had to I would be happy using any of the others, the differences are fairly subtle. This is VERY nice film, and has quickly become my standard large format emulsion.

Peter De Smidt
4-Sep-2008, 16:11
I too have used it with D-76, Xtol, and Pyrocat HD. All work well. I'd start with D76, as it's the standard, and it's reliable. If there is some characteristic about it that you find that you don't like, then you'll have a good idea of where to go, as all developers are compared to it.

ic-racer
4-Sep-2008, 16:52
I use T-max 400 with Rodinal nominal 100:1 dilution and got this curve. More grain and less speed then T-max developer. But it has an IMPRESSION of increased sharpness and the highlight values can have more separation, depending on where they fall on the curve below the shoulder.

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2185&d=1171585292

Ed Richards
4-Sep-2008, 16:54
Xtol 1:3, 75 degrees, 7 minutes, very nice for scanning, full speed, not much grain.

ignatiusjk
4-Sep-2008, 17:52
The only way to really know is to run test.Try rating the tmax at 200,400 and develope using the Kodak times.Tmax is a very good film I would spend the time and get your film speed and devo times down pat

MIke Sherck
4-Sep-2008, 19:17
I've used D-76 for years but for consistancy and repeatability it needs to be pretty fresh D-76, not something that's been sitting in a half-full bottle for the past month. I mix D-76 in gallon jugs, then decant it into quart bottles, filling them to the brim before capping. Bottles last at least a month this way, and probably a lot more. This method keeps D-76 fresh enough for Tmax 100 as well, which is something of a finicky film.

I rate Tmy at 320 and develop for 6:30 at 68 degrees in trays with intermittant agitation in straight D-76. The important thing with these films is to establish a workflow which you can easily repeat consistantly. Good luck!

Mike

Andrew O'Neill
4-Sep-2008, 19:36
D-76 1+1 is good with this film. You really should do your own testing though.

Neal Wydra
4-Sep-2008, 19:42
Kodak proscribes T-Max developer with sheet film. I didn't realize it and used it anyway. No problems.

Neal Wydra

Kirk Fry
4-Sep-2008, 22:16
I did some last night at 68 degrees with TMax 400 and HC110b for 6 min. I got pictures. Looked about right. K

Ed Pierce
5-Sep-2008, 09:21
If you read closely you'll see that Kodak says not to use TMax Developer for sheet film...use the TMAX Developer and Replenisher instead.

They also list D76 as a recommended developer.

Terry Hull
5-Sep-2008, 09:56
Thanks for the responses. TMAX developer that can't be used with TMax film. Go figure!

Photoe
5-Sep-2008, 10:38
I've successfully used it rated at 250 developed in XTOL 1:1 at Kodak times and temps with my JOBO

Jan Pedersen
5-Sep-2008, 10:44
Kodak recomend TMax RS developer for sheet film. I don't know the difference between the two (Tmax and Tmax RS) but there obviously is a difference.

k_redder
5-Sep-2008, 10:52
Kodak recomend TMax RS developer for sheet film. I don't know the difference between the two (Tmax and Tmax RS) but there obviously is a difference.

It is mentioned in this article:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/articles/sexton-tmax.html

Terry Hull
5-Sep-2008, 11:13
Thanks again. At 11 minutes in D-76 1:1 the first negatives look fine.

Keith Tapscott.
7-Sep-2008, 12:15
I am trying the new film in 4X5, but unsure on development/developer, as my Kodak TMax developer says for roll film only. I typically use rodinal or D-76, for FP4 sheet film, and wonder if they work for 400 TMAX, and normal development times? The Kodak website was unhelpful with these developers used with 400TMAX.

Thanks.D-76 diluted 1+1 yields very good negatives with T-Max 100 and 400films and most other films from Kodak, Ilford and Fuji. I think that John Sexton likes D-76 with T-Max films as well and used it for testing the latest version of T-Max 400.
D-76 and ID11 are hard to beat for a good balance of speed, grain, sharpness and resolution.

http://glsmyth.com/Misc/Bascom/TMax.htm

Ron Marshall
7-Sep-2008, 14:17
In Sexton's book "Recollections" most of the images were shot on TMX and TMY, and he states: "Much of the film has been processed in Kodak T-Max RS. Some has been processed in Xtol... He has also used HC-110, D76, Rodinal and various pyro developers.

Keith Tapscott.
8-Sep-2008, 01:27
In Sexton's book "Recollections" most of the images were shot on TMX and TMY, and he states: "Much of the film has been processed in Kodak T-Max RS. Some has been processed in Xtol... He has also used HC-110, D76, Rodinal and various pyro developers.
I have a copy of Recollections and it does mention a variety of B&W processes. D-76 seems to be his main choice.
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressCenter/presentationsPodcast/player.jhtml?pq-path=11792&node=8