Glazer's Camera & ULF Tmax 400

[Glazer's Camera]

Glazer's Camera is proud to partner with Kodak to offer the newly redesigned T-Max 400 in various Ultra Large Format sizes.

We will stock 14x17 film, and will take pre-orders for 11x14 and 12x20 film Friday, April 25 through Friday, May 23, 2008. If we have met Kodak's minimum order quantity by May 23, we will place the order. Your credit card will be charged when your order is placed. If we have not reached the minimum, all money will be fully refunded. We welcome feedback from the ULF community. If there is sufficient interest in other film sizes, we will open up pre-order periods for those formats as well. Delivery of the film is expected within 6-8 weeks of placing our order with Kodak.

The newly redesigned T-Max 400 is the finest and sharpest 400-speed B&W film ever produced. Its’ stunning sharpness and excellent reciprocity characteristics make it an excellent all-around choice for the large format photographer. The T-Max sheet film is being produced without UV coatings to allow contact printing with alternative sources or UV photosensitive materials. Kodak has also agreed to custom package the film (i.e. 14x17 film in 14x17 packaging, 11x14 film in 11x14 packaging, etc) and have managed to keep the film costs LOWER relative to 8x10 film material costs.

Glazer's Camera has been serving the Northwest photo community since 1935. We have always and will continue to serve the Large Format Community and are excited to provide the ULF community access to this wonderful film.

Please see attached link for order form and prices.

http://www.glazerscamera.com/kodak-ulf-film.html


For more info, email William at williaml@glazerscamera.com or call 206.624.1100.

[Eric James]

FWIW Glazer's is a trustworthy source in the PNW. I ordered from them when I lived in Alaska and the items were shipped quickly and were well packaged.

[Sal Santamaura]

We need Glazer's to take positive action to let Kodak know that, even though it doesn't have an SKU for 6 1/2 x 8 1/2, there is probably enough interest to cover the non-recurring expense of creating one, along with boxes and labels.

Over the last few days, I've polled a small number of users of this format with the question: "If 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 TMY-2 were offered in 50-sheet boxes for very roughly $200 per box, how many boxes would you order?" So far, just three of us are ready to purchase more than 30 such hypothetical boxes. I'm sure that when others who either already have or are about to receive (Chamonix, for example) 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 cameras know TMY-2 is an option for them, they'll order at least 20 more boxes, for a total of 50+.

Glazer's, please push for this to be part of the next month's offering, which I assume will close around June 25. That way, in the unlikely event we don't reach your necessary minimum, 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 users will still have 5 days left to place an Ilford order.

Thanks for listening!

[ncholmes]

Sal,

Thanks for you post. I won't have my WP camera for some months, but I'll add my voice now to say that I'd take 5 50-sheet boxes of the new film in 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 .

- neil

[Bruce Watson]

Excellent news!

Will there be any possibility of obtaining non-ULF but "non-standard" sizes like 4x10 and 5x8?

[Michael Kadillak]

Excellent news!

Will there be any possibility of obtaining non-ULF but "non-standard" sizes like 4x10 and 5x8?

One of the basic criteria for responding to this question (which is consistent with how Kodak would proceed with this questions on an individual "Special Order") is that minimum order quantities need to be met because in order for Kodak to justify the costs to put a manufacturing skew into their production system and program the proportions into the film cutting machine. We want to be respespectful of each and every format because that is the diversity that makes this community so vibrant, but it is a two way road. Start talking it up with other folks that share an interest in this and any other non-listed format and run it up the flag pole.

Cheers!

[Sal Santamaura]

...let Kodak know that, even though it doesn't have an SKU for 6 1/2 x 8 1/2...


...for Kodak to justify the costs to put a manufacturing skew into their production system...In case anyone doesn't know what I was referring to by "SKU" and Michael subsequently used phonetically, it stands for Stock Keeping Unit number. Believe it or not, the simple assignment of a catalog/part number results in significant non-recurring and annual expense for a corporation. In fact, lack of an SKU number is one of the reasons Simon Galley gave me for Ilford's decision not to add 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 Delta 100 to its program this year.

That's why it's so important to ensure we reach minimum required order levels on these sizes the first time around.

[Jorge Gasteazoro]

and have managed to keep the film costs LOWER relative to 8x10 film material costs.

This is not entirely accurate, but given the choice worth it at the higher price. This is great news and will be placing an order for 2 boxes before the May 23 deadline. Should we give you a call or just e mail the pdf form?

[Glazer's Camera]

Either one will work. Make sure you don't email your credit card!

thanks,

William


This is not entirely accurate, but given the choice worth it at the higher price. This is great news and will be placing an order for 2 boxes before the May 23 deadline. Should we give you a call or just e mail the pdf form?

[Sal Santamaura]

I've been in contact with William at Glazer's about 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 ("WP") TMY-2. When adjusted from previously speculated 50-sheet boxes to the 25-sheet boxes William just confirmed WP would be packaged in, a number of us using WP have already stated we'd take over 70 boxes. William has requested that we, as well as anyone else who is interested, send him email directly at:

williaml@glazerscamera.com

to let him know how many 25-sheet boxes of WP TMY-2 we'd order. William will follow up with Kodak and, hopefully, we can get this going in time to have a closing date around June 25. Thanks to everyone who is supportive of WP and getting TMY-2 cut for our cameras. Let's prove the naysayers are wrong!

[David Karp]

Sal,

Did he give you a price, or a price estimate?

[Sal Santamaura]

Sal,

Did he give you a price, or a price estimate?Not yet Dave. Let's assume it will be proportional to the other sizes offered and go forth. If we don't let William know of our interest (and he in turn Kodak) it won't matter what the price would have been. I've just finished testing 8x10 TMY-2 and believe it's so far superior to anything else on the market that, within some limits, whatever Kodak's price is will be reasonable. :)

[David Karp]

I am somewhat interested. As you know, I have always loved HP5+, so my plan was to purchase some of that this time around.

As for the TMY-2, did you use the original at all? I am wondering if TMY-2 is different than TMY. I did not care for TMY, so if there is no material difference in the results (aside from the improvements made for alternative processes) then I am not interested at all.

So, depending on the price, and I will contact Glazer's, I might buy a box or two to play with, but my intent is to stock up on HP5+.

[Sal Santamaura]

...As for the TMY-2, did you use the original at all? I am wondering if TMY-2 is different than TMY...I tried TMY in Xtol years ago and didn't like its curve or grain. This time I developed TMY-2 in T-MAX RS 1:9 (using a Jobo) and found a much straighter curve along with finer grain and better acutance. I can't say how much of the difference is attributable to the film and how much to the developer -- although grain is largely a function of film.

In any case, Kodak's impeccable quality control and TMY-2's outstanding performance, including reciprocity, mean I'd much rather have it than HP5 Plus. I encourage anyone who might be interested to contact William now. If a TMY-2 order can't be pulled together before June 30, one can always order all the HP5 Plus one desires. :)

[David Karp]

Thanks Sal.

[Arthur Nichols]

I am interested in some 5x7. I will contact Glazers about this. If anyone else is interested please express interest so that we can make the minimum order.

[peter schrager]

more 5x7 here...
Peter

[Scott Davis]

Just to throw another monkey-wrench in the works, 5x12 would be a really nice size for TMY2. Anyone else out there shooting it, and interested?

[htswv]

And more 5x7 here...I thought 5x7 was going to be one of the standard available sizes? Now we have to meet minimum order requirements for each size?

[steve simmons]

If you are a T-Max 100 fan but are wondering if the new TMY400 will be a possible replacement film check the article by Sandy King that will be in the May/June issue of View Camera. If you have been a subscriber it has been available in the Subscriber's Section for about 3 weeks.

steve simmons

[Michael Kadillak]

And more 5x7 here...I thought 5x7 was going to be one of the standard available sizes? Now we have to meet minimum order requirements for each size?

I believe that 5x7 is one of those sizes that hold considerable interest and will be cut so continue to pass the word and have everyone send their individual interest to William. Please respect the fact that Glazers has made a commitment to Kodak for a certain quantity of TMY(2) that they have agreed to purchase. If it were your money on the line you would have a vested interest in insuring that you generate a reasonable return on your investment/commitment so naturally ALL possible formats are being considered for interest. That way nobody feels that they are left out of the process. No big deal.

I even saw that some 5x7 Fidelity holders are hitting the market. Don't know if this is a long or short term fix but I will take it for what it is - a positive thing.

Remember, Glazers/Kodak are making the commitment to bringing TMY(2) in various sizes over the next 12 months+ to allow Kodak production to fit this into their schedule for efficiency reasons and for everyone to have the time to put their financial resources together. It will be a good year to make photographs.....

[steve simmons]

I am in contact with Kodak about this and other matters. They will be at foto3 to talk about this order and the sequence of sizes and when they will be made available. I will get a schedule as soon as possible.

steve simmons

[Michael Kadillak]

I am in contact with Kodak about this and other matters. They will be at foto3 to talk about this order and the sequence of sizes and when they will be made available. I will get a schedule as soon as possible.

steve simmons

Kodak's involvement with this project has been satisfactory completed in the negotiations that we just finished. As a result they are not in a decision making position on any of the variables relative to this sheet film deal from this point forward. And that is a very good thing. Everything has been successfully transitioned (as it should be) to Glazers as they are the corporate sponsor.

If anyone has questions, comments or concerns on any matter related to this arrangement, contact William at Glazers.

Cheers!

[Turner Reich]

Go Glazer's....

[steve simmons]

View Camera has helped establish a market for this with our annual conferences. Kodak's particiaption in these conferences helped them understand better the film and specificially the sheet film market. I have been told that the View Camera conference is one of the two best places to meet and talk to people interested in traditional photography. (The other is the Society for Photographic Education) I am pleased and proud that View Camera was able to help with this process.

Our conferences, and the Kodak survey a year and a half ago that solidified the interest in film by many photographers, not just sheet film users, has helped show Kodak of the overall interest in film.

I am pleased that a reputable dealer with a long standing and excellent history has become involved. Glaziers will do an excellent job.

steve simmons

[Michael Kadillak]

View Camera has helped establish a market for this with our annual conferences. Kodak's particiaption in these conferences helped them understand better the film and specificially the sheet film market. I have been told that the View Camera conference is one of the two best places to meet and talk to people interested in traditional photography. (The other is the Society for Photographic Education) I am pleased and proud that View Camera was able to help with this process.

Our conferences, and the Kodak survey a year and a half ago that solidified the interest in film by many photographers, not just sheet film users, has helped show Kodak of the overall interest in film.

I am pleased that a reputable dealer with a long standing and excellent history has become involved. Glaziers will do an excellent job.

steve simmons

To be honest, 99.9% of the selling of this concept with T Max ULF #1 was my tenacious bullheadedness to get to the top of the mountain at all costs combined with my marketing and business experience. I am not embarassed nor do I feel the need to apologize to anyone for what was accomplished. I developed and sold the concept all by myself, found the initial sponsor, negotiated the deal, engaged the consuming public AND sold it without any external support of any kind from anyone including View Camera. Kodak had no clue as to the market for ULF sheet film at the time we did this deal. We overshelmed Kodak with dollar signs and they signed off on the deal as they had no financial downside. And that is the truth. After the fact I had an exchange with the Mr. Perez himself that finally convinced me that they were cognizant of the reality that this was a market that was not eroding as quickly as they had forecast - actually it was starting to show growth which blew their mind. Making general assumptions on things you had no part of is not a good practice personally or professionally.

The second offering of TMY ULF(2) is vastly improved overcoming new challenges (correct packaging and 25 sheets per box) and securing a new sponsor which Kodak overwhelmingly supported. Once again, with considerable time and effort this was accomplished without any mention or assistance from anyone at View Camera. I sold Scott Disabato the need to leave the UV coating out of sheet film for the alternative process photographers face to face over breakfast in Victor, New York where Scott lives a long time ago. It was Scott that sold it internally and for that we are all thankful. You are correct in the ascertion that general discussions about sheet film were conducted at a recent View Camera conference. That and $4 will get you a Starbucks mocha with whip.

I personally attended the Society of Photographic Educators Conference in Denver recently and spoke to many photographers about T Max 400 film improvements at the Kodak booth and agree that it was a very successful event. I saw many familiar large format people there. These sheet film deals are completed and are happening as we speak. I am working on a host of other "succession planning" venues to insure that we continue to stay on the road to prosperity irrespective of a few unnecessary distractions along the way. I am hoping that others will join in the effort.

Cheers!

[Daniel Grenier]

.....We will stock 14x17 film, and will take pre-orders for 11x14 and 12x20 film.....

Back to this new offering for a minute.... I am very surprised not to see 7x17 mentioned, given its relative "commonness" or was that simply an unintentional oversight ?

[Michael Kadillak]

Back to this new offering for a minute.... I am very surprised not to see 7x17 mentioned, given its relative "commonness" or was that simply an unintentional oversight ?

Thanks for the interest Daniel.

The deal was purposefully structured very differently from the initial offering. Kodak asked that we spread out the individual cutting of specific formats over the entire year of the sales period. So every two months another two formats will be offered for sale based upon interest received. Communicate your interests with William at Glazers.

This serves several strategic purposes. Initially it allows Kodak to schedule a format or two into their production schedule. Remember, because Kodak is accomodating us with a non-UV emulsion and they are simultaneously coating this same product WITH the UV coating for small and medium formats, the logistical issues need to be accomodated. After manufacturing the film, it needs to season a period of time. Secondly, Kodak has agreed to provide us with proper sized packaging and they need lead time to get these produced. I told Kodak that plain brown sheet film packaging was acceptable to lower costs as long as it was triple boxed and had the manufacturing label.

The last reason we spread out the purchases over the entire year is to allow the consuming sector the time to put their financial resources together. We all recognize that ULF and custom cut modern sheet film is not an inexpensive proposition and we all want to be very sensitive to this issue. The fact that Kodak agreed to put 25 sheets per box when their 8x10 is being sold in 10 sheet packaging was a HUGE accomplishment. This allows shipping costs to be the best rate possible as opposed to the last deal where Kodak used over sized packaging and 10 sheets per box.

All of the sizes listed in the Glazers formal announcement are being considered.

We ask for a little patience in the interim so for now light up Williams phone with your requests.

Cheers!

[David A. Goldfarb]

It's not as if special orders for ULF films from Kodak or Ilford or Fuji are a new thing really. They've all been doing this for some years for anyone who could make the minimum order, before people started organizing group purchases through the internet. I've known people who have ordered 11x14" Tri-X and 20x24" Portra 400 and 20x24" HP5+ on their own. The internet organized group purchase is a new thing, and organizers like Michael are much to be commended for facilitating this process.

[wm mitchell]

Greetings,

Attention those who shoot 11x14 format:

Earlier today, I spoke with William at Glazer's and he informs me that thus far, there has been little or no interest in the new TMAX 400 in 11x14 format. Granted, it's only been a few days since the formal announcement about the availability of this film through Glazer's.

Still, the minimum total order to Kodak for 11x14 film must be 50 boxes, so any 11x14 photographers interested in this film need to place their orders over the next 3+ weeks for this size to be cut in this cycle; otherwise, we'll have to wait until the next ordering period, probably later in the year.

Regards,

BILL
wm mitchell

[Daniel Grenier]

Thanks for the interest Daniel......Communicate your interests with William at Glazers......

(I'm crouching under my desk trying to dodge the sh*t that's flying around here right now :rolleyes: )....

Anyway, thank you so very much for doing this, Michael (and whoever actually had a hand in this). We owe you! I've contacted Glazer's and hope to see a 7x17 run soon.

[Jorge Gasteazoro]

Anybody know what the minimum amount of boxes for the 12x20 run is? I know, I know, I could call William, but rather save the long distance fare to actually buy a box or two.. :)

[Daniel Grenier]

...

[Jorge Gasteazoro]

Daniel, I know the price, I would like to know what is the minimum order Glazer's has to have before they can order it. Is it 50 boxes as well?

[David A. Goldfarb]

Attention those who shoot 11x14 format:

Earlier today, I spoke with William at Glazer's and he informs me that thus far, there has been little or no interest in the new TMAX 400 in 11x14 format. Granted, it's only been a few days since the formal announcement about the availability of this film through Glazer's.

Still, the minimum total order to Kodak for 11x14 film must be 50 boxes, so any 11x14 photographers interested in this film need to place their orders over the next 3+ weeks for this size to be cut in this cycle; otherwise, we'll have to wait until the next ordering period, probably later in the year.

Could be tough while Freestyle still has stock of TXP 11x14" from their last special order a little over a year ago.--

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=&pid=1000001696

When this special order was being organized, I contacted Freestyle about ordering a few boxes, and they said they would get back to me and never did, and then several months later, I noticed it on their website, but by then I'd already stocked up on other film, and I don't have unlimited freezer space.

[Sal Santamaura]

...I spoke with William at Glazer's and he informs me that thus far, there has been little or no interest in the new TMAX 400 in 11x14 format...I wouldn't worry about it too much Bill. 11x14 is in the current month's offering, so there's no reason for anyone to contact William with "expressions of interest;" prospective 11x14 purchasers simply need to place an order. Since Glazer's will charge their credit cards when they place those orders, buyers have no motivation to do so very far in advance of the May 23 cutoff date. Credit card billing dates and interest charges are factors that would tend suggest buyers wait until the last possible moment.

You probably won't know how many solid orders exist for 11x14 TMY-2 until close of business on May 23.

[Glazer's Camera]

Hello,

Just a quick note to let everyone that I am in and out of the office this week (mostly out) so communication might be a bit spotty for the next few days. Rest assured that I am taking notes on all emails and things are proceeding apace and the enthusiasm so far is great! I am checking emails and voicemails daily and things will be back to normal this coming Sunday. Thanks again for all the interest and positive enthusiasm thus far! We hope this can be an ongoing venture for the community.

regards,

William

[Charles Hohenstein]

Thanks, Michael, for all that you have done.

[jnanian]

thanks michael, and thanks glazer's!


john

[Barry Young]

This is so odd. I was in Glazers last week asking about ULF cameras, film and equipment. I did not catch the name of the salesman, but he told me Glazers wasn't interested in having anything at all to do with ULF because there was not enough market. He told me I was the only one in 6 months who even asked about it. I also asked about six months ago. You guys are talking about Glazers in Seattle right?

Barry Young
Young Camera Company

[David Karp]

This is just the sort of thing that the owner of Glazer's just loves to hear, I am sure!

[Michael Kadillak]

This is so odd. I was in Glazers last week asking about ULF cameras, film and equipment. I did not catch the name of the salesman, but he told me Glazers wasn't interested in having anything at all to do with ULF because there was not enough market. He told me I was the only one in 6 months who even asked about it. I also asked about six months ago. You guys are talking about Glazers in Seattle right?

Barry Young
Young Camera Company

Here are the facts. I asked management at Glazers to keep this close to their vest until we had all of out ducks in a row with Kodak. I did not know if I needed to go to several other sponsors if Glazers could not fit the billing and we had to make damn sure that we vastly improve deal #2 compared to deal #1. If the marketplace does not have confidence in the proposal it could be a real problem so we need to be on our game as to how it is advertised and marketed.

Secondly, the number of people actually involved in the negotiations and structure of this arrangement has to be minimal simply because there are so many variables involved and decisions need to be made for progress to be made. You get more than two people in the mix and you can count on naturally induced inefficiency. But being a publisher of an industry publication with a name and contact at Kodak is singularly that and nothing more when it comes to these business arrangements. Promoting the deal is great and for that we are all thankful.

Now that Glazers has completed the deal and formally made the announcement their salesmen should now be aware of the deal and all should be well. That said I have several other suggestions to Glazers on this arrangement for William and this will be one recommendation.

There are a number of other important strategic deals going on behind the scenes so the future of ULF and LF is robust and vibrant.

Cheers!

[Daniel Grenier]

In order to make this venture successful, the entire ULF community should ideally be reached and made aware of this offering. Aside from Forums like this, how does the non-forum-going ULFer know about this, I wonder ? It'd be a shame to lose out on account of people simply not knowing.

PS Can you convince Kodak to make one last AZO run ?

[Hugo Zhang]

Second vote for AZO!!!

[Michael Kadillak]

In order to make this venture successful, the entire ULF community should ideally be reached and made aware of this offering. Aside from Forums like this, how does the non-forum-going ULFer know about this, I wonder ? It'd be a shame to lose out on account of people simply not knowing.

PS Can you convince Kodak to make one last AZO run ?

Sorry guys. We have asked Kodak for such consideration including a limited partnership to produce Azo elswhere that would have meant royalties but they were not interested. We even asked for the formulation as it surely was not doing them any good and got a similar negative response. I can only surmise that the potential adverse consequences of not being "in control" of the final product was not proportional to the return given the fact that this segment is no longer a part of their business plan.

Not saying I like it but as they say in business it is what it is. In a similar vein I wish Kentmere was still in the photographic paper making business and I wish Ilford could have produced Polaroid film but these are the cards we have been dealt and must play.

As I said earlier we have a number of projects that the new generation of problem solvers are working on as we speak so we all be fine. Just give us a little patience. I am so tired and nausious of some of the old school BS that happens within our community that I am having a sixth gear added to my transmission as we speak.....

Cheers!

[Sal Santamaura]

...PS Can you convince Kodak to make one last AZO run ?


Second vote for AZO!!!Kodak has completely dropped out of the black and white paper business. Let's get our paper elsewhere and stay focused on what Kodak still does, namely make master rolls of TMY-2.

This program is about cutting and packaging polyester-based TMY-2 in sizes we all want. Just place orders with Glazer's for the three current offerings / pre-offerings and let William know what other sizes you're interested in for subsequent months' pre-offerings.

Asking for completely discontinued product lines to be re-started is really tilting at windmills. I wouldn't suggest trying Kodak's patience by doing that.

[Hugo Zhang]

Sal,

I have learned another WP photographer emailed Glazer for the WP films. Any idea how many boxes do we need to meet the minimum? I am willing to take a few more boxes if needed.

Thanks.
Hugo

[Sal Santamaura]

...Any idea how many boxes do we need to meet the minimum? I am willing to take a few more boxes if needed...William at Glazer's estimated the minimum would be 80-100 25-sheet boxes of 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 TMY-2. Hugo and everyone else, if you're willing to to increase your previously stated interest level to more boxes, please email William with that information. :)

[Hugo Zhang]

Sal,

I will email him later today to see how many boxes are short to meet the minimum.:)

[Dave Wooten]

Thanks to all for moving forward in keeping ULF available. Thanks to Ilford and Kodak. These comments are not directed particularly at the Kodak deal in question but to the availability of all black and white film production.

I feel transparency would alleviate a lot of misunderstandings. Also IMHO there are many more ULF users not on the forums than are. There are also individuals that might be willing to step up to the plate if the particulars of the opportunity are totally disclosed.

1. As Dave Goldfarb has mentioned, the special orders have been available all along.

Can't any individual funding the minimum order receive the product?

There are many more individuals on and off the forum that have businesses, and wholesale distribution licenses then there are presently stocking dealers of black and white film. Black and white film -and indeed- film sales in your home town are dismal to nil. There is absolutely no local promotion.

2. A full listing of minimums would be helpful.

3. Is there any "dealership" (used to be stocking dealer) stepping up and investing in stocking at least the minimums of all formats available so as to be available throughout the year. The stipulation that all photographers purchase a full 12 months supply of film, I feel cuts the master order. Many could purchase and shoot a box or so a month, if available. Under the present system (and believe me I am thankful for it), product does not remain on the shelf, there is no risk to the dealer, it is paid up front and out the door. It takes no shelf space, and there are no accounts receivable.

Some of the formats in jeopardy of not making the master order might more well be served by individuals becoming "stocking dealers" ?

Any thoughts on this.

[Sal Santamaura]

Sal,

I will email him later today to see how many boxes are short to meet the minimum.:)

Great. Just don't count on quick responses from William before Sunday, May 4.


Hello,

Just a quick note to let everyone that I am in and out of the office this week (mostly out) so communication might be a bit spotty for the next few days. Rest assured that I am taking notes on all emails and things are proceeding apace and the enthusiasm so far is great! I am checking emails and voicemails daily and things will be back to normal this coming Sunday...

[jshanesy]

I developed and sold the concept all by myself, found the initial sponsor, negotiated the deal, engaged the consuming public AND sold it without any external support of any kind from anyone including View Camera.

Mike:

The next time you're around here, dinner's on me. (BTW, I've emailed William about the 5x7 I want. I suggest anyone else interested in this format do the same.)

Jim

[jshanesy]

Anybody know what the minimum amount of boxes for the 12x20 run is? I know, I know, I could call William, but rather save the long distance fare to actually buy a box or two.. :)

Email him, Jorge. He's quite responsive and probably would rather have an email of your desired quantity to more easily keep his running tallies. williaml@glazerscamera.com

[Glazer's Camera]

Thanks for all the input so far. I have asked Kodak to add 6.8x8.5 to their list of possible SKU's, but have yet to hear back from them. As I stated before, it's important that we hear from photographers interested in this offering. This helps us gauge the interest in various sizes and figure out what sizes to open up an ordering period for. We really appreciate all the interest thus far.

William

[Glazer's Camera]

Hello All,

Just wanted to clear up a couple of things. We are not "scheduling" any formats at this time,nor are we planning to schedule certain formats for certain times of the year. We are responding to demand and research I've done over the last few months. We have a pre-order period going for 11x14,12x20 and 6.5x8.5. We can order any amount of film we want at any time,in any of the formats Kodak has SKU's for, it's not a matter of Kodak fitting us into their runs. Glazer's is not the "sponsor" of this ULF project. We are a dealer that has been dealing with Kodak for 65 years and this is another product that we carry. We are not working with anyone other than Kodak on this endeavor, so please, if you have any questions about this project you can direct it to me via the forums or calling or emailing. There's a lot of incorrect information floating around and we want to make sure this project proceeds smoothly. I look forward to hearing from you and things are proceeding apace!

thanks,

William

[Hugo Zhang]

William,

If Kodak can put 6.5x8.5 films into the right boxes, I think we will work on our side to meet their minimum of 150 boxes. It does not feel right to pay a premium price for a great film in wrong boxes.

Thanks.
Hugo

[Glazer's Camera]

Hi Hugo,

I understand, but the prices for the ULF film don't have much to do with their packaging. Kodak is prepared to provide packaging for the intial dozen or so SKU's, but not for WP.

thanks,

William

[Jan Pedersen]

William,
How is interest for the 5x7 so far? I'm hoping that there will be enough demand to meet the minimum qty. but have not seen much about 5x7

Thanks.
jan

[Glazer's Camera]

Just a quick update on the 11x14 and 12x20 preorders I've been taking. In 11x14, we are still about 30 boxes short of making the minimum order and in 12x20) we need to get another 20 boxes preordered. I would encourage everyone interested in those two formats to call me at (888) 531-3232. I can extend the order period by another week to Friday, May 30th, but we need to reach the minimum order quantity by that point or I'll be moving on to other formats. We at Glazer's are very happy with the response we've received with this ULF offering and are committed to continuing this project!

thanks,

William

[Glazer's Camera]

Hello,

At this point, we are very close to a 12x20 order, but not so close to 11x14. I'll be making a determination on both formats this coming Tuesday. We can always do another pre-order period if there is sufficient interest.

thanks,

William
Glazer's Camera