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Masayoshi Hayashi
3-Jul-1998, 00:42
Hi, I've taken some polaroid pictures with my new LF camera. I used only a light meter (not film plane metering) and leaf shutter without any sophisticated aid l ike auto shutter (anyway I would continue doing this since I'm mostly in field o r at location taking landscape and architecture.) I felt very awkward to decide the exposure value when I took a first couple of films; particularly compensatin g for bellows extension and reciprocity failure using a lightmeter. My temporary procedure (using my Sinar) is as follows: <ol> <li>Determine the optimum depth of field of the object using the built in depth of field calculator. Set the aperture of shutter as indicated, then turn the foc using knob two stops (decreasing the f number on the scale of the calculator. No w the camera is set at the optimum depth of field. (The optimum depth of field i s the largest aperture possible to cover the object. The smaller aperture fails to cover this range. Is it correct?) <li>Meter the light in shutter priority mode (Sekonic L-508) because (my) leaf s hutter can only be set in full stop increments. <li>Measure the bellows extension. (What if the camera isn't at normal position (e.g.. tilted, shifted etc.)? Do I (still) measure the distance from the rear no dal point (approx.. center of lensboard) to the center of ground glass?) <li>Compensate the factor by decreasing the f number of the LIGHTMETER if it has an exposure compensation feature. (What if there isn't such a feature?) <li>Look at the reciprocity failure chart of the film in use. Then, compensate a ccordingly by decreasing the f number of the LIGHT METER in exposure compensatio n mode again. <li>Now read the f number. Of course now the f number is lower than the original value desired. So turn the dial of the light meter (Shutter priority mode) so t hat the shutter speed increases in full stops and the f number increases. Choose the combination where the f number is the lowest high to the original f number set in shutter. (Aperture increment is continuous so it's ok to be in fraction.) Set the shutter speed of shutter as indicated by the light meter. (If the shutt er speed is higher than 1 sec, do I use B or T with stopwatch?) <li>Wind the shutter, close the blade, set the film and shoot! <li>Ask if I'm doing right. </ol> I'm sorry if this is too long. But is this procedure correct? What procedure do you take in order to determine the correct exposure value? Thank you so much! Ma sayoshi

Ellis Vener
3-Jul-1998, 15:29

Dan Smith
9-Jul-1998, 15:23
Don't make it so complicated, unless you are comfortable with all the steps you seem to want to take. I set up the camera after basically deciding how I want t he scene to look-choosing the lens by eyeballing the scene to see which lens wil l do it justice.(this takes practice but after a bit you will probably know whic h lens you want to use with a short look). Then I decide what the exposure shou ld be by looking at my light quality and whether the scene has predominantly dar k, light or reflective surfaces I need to consider. Focus, set the aperture & s hutter speed(after checking with either a spot or incident meter if I feel the n eed) and shoot. The one qualifier is bellows extension. I check it on closer i mages and compensate by longer exposure times as it "feels good". Not too scien tific I know, but it works from experience. With reciprocity on longer exposure s(up to about 20 minutes) I rely on the "feels good" rather than charts. None o f the damn charts agree with any other & so I again rely on experience. Bracket a bit the first few times and then you hone in on what is pretty good and the b rackets are much fewer and more accurate. If anything(in B&W) I overexpose a bi t. With chromes I am usually right on or very close(the reason for light bracke ts when I am not quite sure). Whatever system you use, make sure you get famili ar with it and do it in the same sequence each time. That way it flows & you fe el better about it and the results will show that.

Brian Ellis
10-Jul-1998, 00:08
You might be interested in purchasing a Casio pocket computer loaded with a prog ram written by Phil Davis that will automatically do the various things it looks like you're now doing manually. To determine exposure you simply meter the most important highlight, place it on a zone (usually VI to VIII), meter the most im portant shadow (usually III to V), tell the computer what aperture you want to u se (or what shutter speed you want to use) and the computer calculates the expos ure (or, alternatively, you can use an incident meter but I've never done that). The computer will factor bellows extension and reciprocity into the exposure ca lculation, keep a record of each exposure, tell you the correct aperture to obta in the desired depth of field, tell you the depth of field with the aperture you have selected, and probably some other things that don't immediately come to mi nd. The computer can be purchased from Darkroom Innovations in Arizona. I don't have their e mail address or phone # handy but they usually advertise in "View C amera" magazine. If wyou wish to pursue this but can't find them send me an e ma il and I'll get the information for you.

Tony Brent
8-Sep-1998, 00:29
Do you intend to explore the use of the "Zone" system to calibrate your film / d eveloper / enlarger / paper into a cohesive, predictable outfit so that you have a solid idea how your exposure choices are going to wind up in the final print?

Many fine texts exist that will introduce you to this.

The one thing to keep in mind with almost any light metering system is that when you center the needle or line up the marks, what you are doing is setting a cam era exposure that will produce a middle grey value in the final print, regardles s of the how light or dark the object was that you metered.

At its simplest, "Zone" systems "place" subject values at their appropriate plac e on the exposure scale of the negative, so that they will produce a value in th e final print that corresponds (OR DIFFERS) from the original subject value.

The rest of the procedures are aimed at working with your own outfit so that you can "see" the finished print before you trip the shutter.

See: Camera and Lens, The Negative, The Print by Ansel Adams. The New Zone System Manual by White, Zakia & Lorenz Zone Systemizer by Dowdell & Zakia Zone VI Workshop by Fred Picker

Sounds a lot more formidable than it really is. Once you get a feel for it, it i s very intuitive.