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David Honey
22-Nov-2005, 09:51
http://www.microtekusa.com/smi800.html

Is this one supposedly improved over the i900? (Model nos. never make any sense to me!)

With digital ICE, for $399. Is it going to blow the 4990 out of the water?

I know it's still brand new, but any impressions?



Dave

Linas Kudzma
22-Nov-2005, 10:07
I was about to post a similar question. Also, how does the i800 handle film larger than 4x5. Does it lay on a glass tray as (I think) it does with the i900?

Jack Flesher
22-Nov-2005, 10:21
I just ordered one of these because I heard the film holder was so superior to anything else out there. It is cheap at $349 from B&H.

HOWEVER, I found out yesterday it does NOT have a media drawer like the 1800 so scans through the top glass :( I suspect I will be sending it back.

IMO the Epson 4990 Pro is probably going to be the way to go...

David Honey
22-Nov-2005, 11:08
That's funny Jack, it looked to me from the photo to have a drawer, which I assumed the holders went in.

Why do you think the Epson would be a better buy, at nearly $100 more?

Dave

Ted Harris
22-Nov-2005, 11:12
We had a quick look at the i800 during our last scanning workshop a week + ago and from that it looked like, based on the film holders alone that it could be a major leap forward over the 4990 and perhaps even the i900. Unfortunately we did not have time to really put it through its paces but an evaluation unit is on its way to me now for a shakedown.

Correct, it does not have a media drrawer but I believe it will still outperform the 4990 although the tests will tell.

As we have said many times in this price range the differences between scanner A and scanner B are going to be small. They all use basically the same sensors and the differences are going to be in things like film holders and the quality of the supplied software.

Jack Flesher
22-Nov-2005, 13:31
>>Why do you think the Epson would be a better buy, at nearly $100 more?>>

Fair question... Right after I ordered mine, my local store got an i800 in. In a comparison scan of a 35mm MOUNTED slide, the 4990 scan was clearly superior from a resolution standpoint. The i800 however showed slightly better D-max -- I'd guess about 3 points worth.

HoweverBut, I did not do the scan and do not know how much time was spent learning the i800 software prior to the slide scan, while the 4990/Silverfast package is well-known in this particular store. I can say the i800 film holder for 4x5 and MF looks superb, as it kind of pulls the sides as it locks down. One of the problems I had with my 3200 was Newton rings because the holder was junk -- this i800 holder should elminate that problem.

I will have it early next week, can test it and report back. If it doesn't cut it, I will return it. I am hoping it was an improper focus setting for the mounted tranny or a calibration issue.

Cheers,

jonathan smith
23-Nov-2005, 02:40
Will it accomodate 8x10? It looks like the transparency scan area is 8.5 x 12, but 8x10 isn't listed as a format it will work with. Can you just slap an 8x10 on there and scan it?

Jack Flesher
23-Nov-2005, 08:13
AFAIK, it will accept an 8x10 but there is no holder -- instead the tranny or neg rests on a sheet of clear film, like thick OHT film, that is supposedly anti-newton?

Linas Kudzma
26-Nov-2005, 11:43
Jack,

Have you pesonally tried the larger negative scanning area? Is the clear surface rigid or a flexible sheet? I'm very interested in details because I'm considering this scanner. For my purposes, it must be able to scan 8x10 without difficulties.

Jeremy Holmes
27-Nov-2005, 17:12
The i800 is supposed to be an advancement over the i700 and is placed below the i900 optics wise from what I've been told based on its price point. It is not an Artixscan 1800f by any means but it's roughly 1/3rd of the price so it should be very competitive. The main thing that it lacks besides optics is the glassless scanning of slides and negatives. With that being said when I've used it the prints look fantastic. If need be I can post some up in the next week or two. I think it's a progression of scanning technology and should be considered if you're looking for a nice home office scanner against the 4990.

Jeremy

Linas Kudzma
27-Nov-2005, 18:50
Thanks Jeremy.

Jeremy Holmes
5-Dec-2005, 14:40
No problem Linas

Michael Mastro
1-Feb-2006, 10:00
Hello

I am in the market for a flatbed that can also scan film and transparencies. It looks like it's down to the Microtek i900 vs Epson 4990. The Epson is higher resolution, but I assume that the i900 has a higher dMax (can't find it anywhere). They are priced similarly and I wondered if I can get opinions on one over the other.

Thanks to all for your assistance.

Michael Mastro

Ted Harris
1-Feb-2006, 11:29
Michael,

'Real' rsolution is higher on the 4990 ... but only very slightly .. than on the i900. You are correct about the dMax, our tests show the i900 has a 'real' dMax that is significantly higher than that of the 4990. Additionally,it appears that the registration between the R-G-B channels is better on the i900 so you pays your money and takes your choice.

Michael Mastro
1-Feb-2006, 11:58
Ted

That's a big help. Now - what about between the i800 and i900? The i800 is higher resolution, but lower price? Which one wins the quality test?

Ted Harris
1-Feb-2006, 12:38
Michael,

I willbe able to answer tht sometime in the next two weeks but can't right now. I have an i800 sitting here to pu tthrough its paces but won't get to it till next week. My gut feelingis that, as stated above, the resolution numbers are less important than other factors. If got pushed without havving done a test .. say by someone who just had to go buy one this minute ... I would recommend the i900 simply based on the fact that it has the second, glassless scanning path for trannies.

BTW, if you don't need to make a decision for a while you might consider one of our scanning workshops where you will get a chance to check out several different scanner flavors. Next workshop is is March 3 in Springfield, MA and you can get the details on my website (www.fourpointlanding.com) or the Midwest Photo website.

Michael Mastro
1-Feb-2006, 12:53
Ted

That's a huge help, as I don't need to buy one today. I'll look forward to your comparrison. Many thanks again.

Michael Mastro
1-Feb-2006, 13:04
BTW I have a good number of 35mm transparencies to scan. Alot of old Ektachrome 400.