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ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 09:05
At first, I got a used jogging stroller but my dog seems to be enjoying it a lot more (English Bulldog). And the studio Bogen I use falls off it. And the plastic walmart container with film holders on seat portion seems kinda heavy for it. I probably will not be doing any hiking and if I do, it'll be on a decent trail where people jog and mountain bike. One day sure,I'll get a backpack, a bowie knife, bear gun, camping gear and head off to the sunset with my 8x10. But for now, drive my sh**y old pickup with this thing, and go for a walk with it. Looks like my local home store has it for 70 bucks.

https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/722571/722571010577.jpg

Luis-F-S
17-Aug-2017, 09:21
And it will hold your Bulldog and his water bowl in case he's too hot!

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 09:27
And it will hold your Bulldog and his water bowl in case he's too hot!

Yeah for sure! At least it's plastic and I can hose off the dog spit and hair easily. It'll go well with my rusty ol' pickup.
Wheels looks like it has bearings which means I can probably service this.

Jim Noel
17-Aug-2017, 10:09
Looks great! I wish the folding wagon I carry my gear in had those wheels.

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 10:33
Looks great! I wish the folding wagon I carry my gear in had those wheels.

That's what I was thinking at first. Folding wagons looked great and practical. I can use it for laundry. But those wheels, I was thinking "I can't go through trails with folding cart wheels". And this was about same price as some of the folding ones.

jon.oman
17-Aug-2017, 11:52
You better have a strong back to get this out of your truck! It weighs 58.6 lbs!

That is, if it is this one?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BECQF6K/ref=asc_df_B01BECQF6K5126871/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B01BECQF6K&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167126565972&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17750632194837557499&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010540&hvtargid=pla-315480928076

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 12:40
You better have a strong back to get this out of your truck! It weighs 58.6 lbs!

That is, if it is this one?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BECQF6K/ref=asc_df_B01BECQF6K5126871/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B01BECQF6K&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167126565972&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17750632194837557499&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010540&hvtargid=pla-315480928076

That's the 1,200 pound capacity. This one is 600 lb capacity. 31 lbs. Not bad, still, it's rolling and better than a backpack for now

Series Name N/A
Capacity (Cu. Feet) 4
Weight Limit (lbs.) 600
Cart Material Poly
Folding Cart No
Cart Wheel Size (Inches) 10
Flat-Free Tire(s) No
Tire Type Pneumatic
Handle Material Steel
Handle Grips Yes
Towable No
Manufacturer Color/Finish Black
Color/Finish Family Black
Cart Weight (lbs.) 31.5
Warranty 1-year limited

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 12:43
Let's see, 30 pounds plus almost 30 pounds of camera junk = 60 pounds. That's like biking with my dog on trailer, she's about 50-60 pound english bulldog. About the weight of my kids in a red flyer when they were young. So not bad actually.

Alan Gales
17-Aug-2017, 12:54
And it will hold your Bulldog and his water bowl in case he's too hot!

Bulldog? It's supposed to hold a Gorilla. Can't you read, Louis?

Jerry Bodine
17-Aug-2017, 14:05
Bulldog? It's supposed to hold a Gorilla. Can't you read, Louis?

I wouldn't have a gorilla unless he'd carry my 8x10 kit + tripod. BTW, Eric, how would you pack the tripod on this wagon (with the kit but w/o your puppy ... or does he accompany you wherever you go)?

Alan Gales
17-Aug-2017, 14:21
I wouldn't have a gorilla unless he'd carry my 8x10 kit + tripod. BTW, Eric, how would you pack the tripod on this wagon (with the kit but w/o your puppy ... or does he accompany you wherever you go)?

Jerry, if you are going to have a gorilla carry your 8x10 then you better put it inside some American Tourister luggage first!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 14:34
Jerry, if you are going to have a gorilla carry your 8x10 then you better put it inside some American Tourister luggage first!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730

That commercial was awesome! Didn't Pelican did something similar like 10 years ago? You show them pics of your Pelican that went through hell.

jp
17-Aug-2017, 14:41
I was at an event where one of the other photographers was using a "folding wagon" to cart around their cameras and BFG sports lenses. It seems pretty practical for lawns and paths. Not really wilderness ready simply because of wheel size. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OMM38TC/

faberryman
17-Aug-2017, 14:57
It seems pretty practical for lawns and paths. Not really wilderness ready simply because of wheel size. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OMM38TC/
And it has two mesh cup holders keep your beverages secure!

Jac@stafford.net
17-Aug-2017, 14:59
The wheel base is rather short. In time I will post my Alice backpack frame with two 12" pneumatic tires which means you can carry the backpack and when the going gets tough you can pull it behind. Nudge me to make it so. (I am still looking for larger diameter pneumatic wheels that fit a 1/2" axle.)

ericantonio
17-Aug-2017, 15:05
The wheel base is rather short. In time I will post my Alice backpack frame with two 12" pneumatic tires.
Nudge me to make it so.

My friend at work, ex-military, said he's looking for an Alice for me. He may have a few laying around. That was one of my other options. I looked at some external frame packs and look great but the ones I saw were top loading or front loading that wouldn't even open up enough for the 8x10. Will work for 4x5's though.

Rael
18-Aug-2017, 03:33
I'd be interested in seeing your Alice pack mod. I have an Alice pack that I don't know what to do with since it's really too heavy for backpacking.

HMG
18-Aug-2017, 06:28
My son has one of these (for his 2 kids). Loves it.

Richard Wasserman
18-Aug-2017, 06:33
The wheel base is rather short. In time I will post my Alice backpack frame with two 12" pneumatic tires which means you can carry the backpack and when the going gets tough you can pull it behind. Nudge me to make it so. (I am still looking for larger diameter pneumatic wheels that fit a 1/2" axle.)

Here you go Jac—

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=Northern+Industrial+Tools+Tire+on+Spoked+Ball+Bearing+Wheel+%E2%80%94+16in

Jac@stafford.net
18-Aug-2017, 07:30
Here you go Jacó

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=Northern+Industrial+Tools+Tire+on+Spoked+Ball+Bearing+Wheel+%E2%80%94+16in

16" is great! The spokes are iffy, aren't they?

Richard Wasserman
18-Aug-2017, 07:52
16" is great! The spokes are iffy, aren't they?

I've used a Sherpa Cart, which is sadly no longer available, with similar wheels and no issues whatsoever. I'd say they're worth a try.

ericantonio
18-Aug-2017, 08:17
Here you go Jacó

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=48&Ntt=Northern+Industrial+Tools+Tire+on+Spoked+Ball+Bearing+Wheel+%E2%80%94+16in

That's really cool. Haven't seen my friend at work yet, the guy with the ALICE frame. It'll be interesting. Heck why not, it's free and I can use it for 4x5 at least right? Or uban hiking in LA!

So how would you attach an axle to an ALICE frame?

ericantonio
18-Aug-2017, 08:21
And it has two mesh cup holders keep your beverages secure!


It seems pretty practical for lawns and paths. Not really wilderness ready simply because of wheel size. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OMM38TC/

I was looking at these and there are some at the local Walmart and better ones at Dick's sporting goods. Yeah, I'm kinda iffy with the wheels. I've had handtrucks with solid wheels before and there's nothing like a handtruck or a cart with real tires with air in them. It does look great cause you can fold it down small though. As usual, I think eventually I would say to myself "should've got the heavy duty one".

You know, like you buy a camera bag to "just fit enough" and then later one you are like "dang, should've got the bigger one". We've all been there. Camera bags anonymous man....

Jac@stafford.net
18-Aug-2017, 08:32
I apologize! I misidentified the backpack frame! It is not an ALICE at all. It is an aluminum backpack frame with a top extension that slides up so it can become a handle in this application. The axle is one I made that fits across the bottom of the frame with clearance so that the pack can be carried with our without the wheels. I'll try to find a picture. So sorry for the misdirection.

:) The wheels were used for another application - a garden hauler later replaced with a Worx Aerocart (https://www.worx.com/aerocart-wheelbarrow-yard-cart-wg050.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvsWylY7h1QIVSLXACh2a0QacEAQYASABEgLhFvD_BwE).

A tip on inflatable wheels - some of them are of unfortunate design - the inflation valve (schrader valve) is too close to a spoke or the hub to reach with a regular tire pump or compressor tip.

ericantonio
18-Aug-2017, 08:45
A tip on inflatable wheels - some of them are of unfortunate design - the inflation valve (schrader valve) is too close to a spoke or the hub to reach with a regular tire pump or compressor tip.

Yeah, I've noticed this on my jogging stroller!

callmebrick
18-Aug-2017, 19:58
The wheel base is rather short. In time I will post my Alice backpack frame with two 12" pneumatic tires which means you can carry the backpack and when the going gets tough you can pull it behind. Nudge me to make it so. (I am still looking for larger diameter pneumatic wheels that fit a 1/2" axle.)

I'd like to see this!

ericantonio
20-Aug-2017, 16:16
Testing it out today. So far so good. I pulled a 50 pound fat ass on it. On sidewalk/concrete. so smooth. Ball bearing wheels are so much better than a red flyer wagon or the Baby Jogger stroller I used to use.
On grass, a little more challenging. On hard dirt, not a problem.

Going down hill, need to hold the handle on your butt on or it'll get away from you. Or lead with the wagon and pull it going downhill to keep it from running away. Probably wrap my good old Bogen so it doesn't hurt the plastic. And then lash is down with some rope or some bungie cords.

http://www.ihave3thumbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-08-20-15.39.13.jpg

faberryman
20-Aug-2017, 16:32
So are you going to get a backpack for your camera since the wagon is spoken for?

consummate_fritterer
20-Aug-2017, 16:55
Nah... now he must take two wagons... one for camera... other for lazy dog.

Vaughn
20-Aug-2017, 19:42
For me the metal version would work better. Could be modified to carry my 11x14, holders and a couple lenses. Take off the metal sides and build my own boxes on it.

Cameron Cornell
20-Aug-2017, 21:46
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This is my rig for hauling the Ansco Studio No. 5 into the field. It's served me well for years.

Cameron Cornell
Washington State

Vaughn
20-Aug-2017, 22:30
Excellent! Similar to what I was thinking -- wood box to hold the 11x14 holders, either flat or on their sides, along with a couple lenses. Another box for the 11x14. The camera is in an old military suitcase right now (outside dimensions 20x25x9).

ericantonio
21-Aug-2017, 09:05
168674

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This is my rig for hauling the Ansco Studio No. 5 into the field. It's served me well for years.

Cameron Cornell
Washington State

That's AWESOME!!! I like the tripod mount. They had one of these on display when I got my garden one. It's quite large for my needs and probably about half the size of my patio!

ericantonio
21-Aug-2017, 09:07
For me the metal version would work better. Could be modified to carry my 11x14, holders and a couple lenses. Take off the metal sides and build my own boxes on it.

I can see, in the near future, people can put battery packs on these like they do with bikes with batteries. There's a place near me that rents battery bikes and go around park. Looks fun. And I've seen guys on skateboards with battery power engines on it. If someone can stick and battery under this and a motor to power the rear wheel, then you really got something....

MrFujicaman
22-Aug-2017, 08:34
The wheel base is rather short. In time I will post my Alice backpack frame with two 12" pneumatic tires which means you can carry the backpack and when the going gets tough you can pull it behind. Nudge me to make it so. (I am still looking for larger diameter pneumatic wheels that fit a 1/2" axle.)

Jac....Amazon has a "16 inch air tire" with a 1/2 axle listed

Jac@stafford.net
23-Aug-2017, 07:54
Jac....Amazon has a "16 inch air tire" with a 1/2 axle listed

Thanks! Ordered!

MrFujicaman
23-Aug-2017, 08:21
Thanks! Ordered!
And now you know why my dad's nickname for me was "The Finder" !

Drew Wiley
23-Aug-2017, 08:58
I had something like that when I was four years old, then wrecked it going downhill. But it was an authentic WWII Radio Flyer red wagon. Otherwise, the neo versions seem like something made for hauling steer manure in backyards in the burbs; so avoid anything "pre-owned".

Drew Wiley
23-Aug-2017, 10:37
Sorry, but couldn't avoid a wisecrack. Why do you need to tote so much stuff at once??? If I needed to transport weight on wheels, I'd do it vertically with a modified handtruck. In fact, I've done it with construction and layout gear, even with an integral laser mount instead of a separate tripod. You can even buy containerized handtrucks from Tanos though they're pricey. But something like that might provide a clue. Could be improved with oversize wheels and a steel rather than alum. frame.

Vaughn
23-Aug-2017, 10:42
With 11x14, it is the bulk, rather than weight that makes one of the carts attractive to me.

However, one of these would be even better: http://surlybikes.com/bikes/big_dummy

Perhaps with an electrical assist? If the range was 120 miles, that would get me up to, into, and back home from my favorite redwoods with the 11x14 and camping gear. Otherwise I might have to plug into the ranger station.

Drew Wiley
23-Aug-2017, 11:19
One more idea. Why not just adapt a motorized electric wheelchair? They can handle a lot of weight and go faster than one can walk. I'll admit I prefer a backpack, and could easily handle an 11x14 or bigger on a game-carrying frame like elk hunters use. Anything with wheels is limited to smoother surfaces. But I do know someone who roller skates down steep dirt trails, so at least someone is crazier than we LF types!

Vaughn
23-Aug-2017, 11:34
I am glad my boys' mother never saw where I took the triplet stroller, LOL!

john borrelli
10-Sep-2017, 05:45
169561 Just a thought and all the best :), John

Daniel Stone
10-Sep-2017, 11:00
Why not just get one of the big wheel garden tubs, like this one?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubbermaid-Commercial-Products-7-5-cu-ft-Plastic-Yard-Cart-FG564200BLA/100344354

ericantonio
10-Sep-2017, 19:04
It worked out good today. Great for going from truck to wherever and back. I think I need to condense a little better. Didn't realize that Pelican is SO HUGE


http://www.ihave3thumbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/cart.jpg