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ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 10:39
Hi
I took this picture in daylight and used a soft box as a file light. When I first saw the negative I was really excited, this was the first negative that really looked like I had got the exposure right. It wasn't until I scanned the neg and put it up the the computer that I saw that my wife eyes were all messed up.........Has anyone any idea of what I did wrong?
Camera settings
Wisner 4x5
360 Nikon Lens
shot at f32
1/4
Tmax 100

Any help advice would be much appreciated
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Jason Greenberg Motamedi
23-May-2017, 10:52
she blinked...

Mark Sawyer
23-May-2017, 10:58
What Jason said.

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 10:59
I thought about that but wasn't sure

she blinked...

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 11:02
Sh!t.....I guess there is more to this than at first thought...........at least I can now blame my wife :) :) ;)

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 11:46
So going forward, what would you guys recommend for trying to avoid this happing again...........faster shutter speed maybe (also limited to minimum f stop (I think the 360mm is f8) Faster film maybe..................what do you think??

Neil

chassis
23-May-2017, 11:47
Is the artifact visible in the negative? Is the image a negative scan or from a print? Sometimes clipping in the low midtones/shadows can happen when scanning negatives, depending on your scanner/software/settings.

Also can be a blink as mentioned.

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 12:01
Is the artifact visible in the negative? Is the image a negative scan or from a print? Sometimes clipping in the low midtones/shadows can happen when scanning negatives, depending on your scanner/software/settings.

Also can be a blink as mentioned.
To be honest I did not check the negative out. The scanner is a Epson 850 flatbed and I just used the Epson sofware that came with the scanner (not the Silverfox)......I love that software by the way 10 x better than Silverfox and Vuescan IMHO

Bob Salomon
23-May-2017, 12:02
So going forward, what would you guys recommend for trying to avoid this happing again...........faster shutter speed maybe (also limited to minimum f stop (I think the 360mm is f8) Faster film maybe..................what do you think??

Neil

Hold your hand up and tell her to watch it or to look at your shoulder, and then take the picture while she is looking and don't tell her when you press the shutter release, also, use a long enough release so you can hold it by your side or behind you while you fire the shutter.

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 12:05
Hold your hand up and tell her to watch it or to look at your shoulder, and then take the picture while she is looking and don't tell her when you press the shutter release, also, use a long enough release so you can hold it by your side or behind you while you fire the shutter.
My shutter release is only about 12 inches but I like the idea of asking her to look at a hand or shoulder.....I will try it when I get home :)

xkaes
23-May-2017, 12:13
My wife went to get her license renewed the other day. They always take a new photo and they use a flash, so slow speeds are not an issue. The prints come out immediately, but I don't know what system they use. Anyway, right at the time the flash went off, my wife was in the middle of a blink, and the picture had to be taken over again. The clerk said, "That happens all the time". They took another picture, and the SAME THING happened!!! They tried a third picture, and sure enough, another blink. At this point, the line was getting pretty long, and my wife was getting some long looks. Fortunately, the fourth was a charm.

I've had a lot of license pictures taken over the years and never had that problem, but the last time I went in, I was told to remove my eyeglasses. I've never been told that before, and pointed out that if my license shows me without glasses, it won't look anything like me if I am pulled over -- because I always wear my glasses when I drive. Still, she insisted. I said "OK, but I won't be able to find the camera!"

Bob Salomon
23-May-2017, 13:27
My shutter release is only about 12 inches but I like the idea of asking her to look at a hand or shoulder.....I will try it when I get home :)

And get a longer release.

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 13:40
And get a longer release.
I have a 40" one in my shopping basket at B&H.....I'm just undecided on what 4x5 film to get then I will ship it.

Fred L
23-May-2017, 13:59
fwiw, this is an easy fix in post. be bit more work in the darkroom but can be done there as well.

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 14:01
fwiw, this is an easy fix in post. be bit more work in the darkroom but can be done there as well.
I tried with PScc but its beyond me........I just couldn't get it :(

Pfsor
23-May-2017, 14:08
ndwgolf, calm down. I can seriously assure you - nothing, absolutely nothing, zero, nada, happened to your wife's eyes. Absolutely nothing. She still sees as before, she still has her eyes as before. Calm down - she can still use her eyes as before. Nothing happened to her own eyes whatsoever! It's all on the negative only...
Hope it will help you. Photography can be excruciating sometimes, can't it?

ndwgolf
23-May-2017, 14:18
ndwgolf, calm down. I can seriously assure you - nothing, absolutely nothing, zero, nada, happened to your wife's eyes. Absolutely nothing. She still sees as before, she still has her eyes as before. Calm down - she can still use her eyes as before. Nothing happened to her own eyes whatsoever! It's all on the negative only...
Hope it will help you. Photography can be excruciating sometimes, can't it?
Hahahahahah

Tav Walraven
23-May-2017, 15:08
Try some 400 asa film......shoot at 1/15 second...........tell her you will count to three......take the picture when you get to 2 !!!!

Randy
23-May-2017, 15:17
So going forward, what would you guys recommend for trying to avoid this happing again...........faster shutter speed maybe (also limited to minimum f stop (I think the 360mm is f8) Faster film maybe..................what do you think??

NeilFaster shutter speed - yes - but for static, posed portraits I have always commanded my subject to blink, and then I trip the shutter right after they open their eyes.

Ken Lee
23-May-2017, 16:46
http://www.kennethleegallery.com/images/forum/FixEyes.jpg

Next time you'll get a better one, but in the meanwhile it's fairly easy to fix in Photoshop.

BrianShaw
23-May-2017, 18:25
So going forward, what would you guys recommend for trying to avoid this happing again...........faster shutter speed maybe (also limited to minimum f stop (I think the 360mm is f8) Faster film maybe..................what do you think??

Neil

My wife is a blinker. I had a choice: new wife or stop trying to photograph her. I chose one of those options.

Mark Sawyer
23-May-2017, 18:48
So going forward, what would you guys recommend for trying to avoid this happing again...

There are a number of practical solutions. You can sew or staple her eyelids open, or run a bead of superglue along the top of her eyelids to keep her from blinking. You can also duct-tape her eyes open, but you'll have to photoshop the duct-tape out...

chassis
23-May-2017, 19:12
My father in law is a blinker; to a lesser degree, so is my wife. A technique that works often, but not always, is to count aloud "1, 2" and release the shutter on "2". People expect the shutter release on "3" and the blink reflex in the exposure is sometimes avoided. A variation on this is to count to 3, pause while the blinkers blink, then release the shutter on the unverbalized "4".

Fred L
23-May-2017, 19:52
ken beat me to the fix lol

-basically -select (I use lasso) -> apply feather or refine edge (guessing ken used maybe 3 or 4 feather since file was small) ->adjust levels or curves to darken and add some local contrast -> bob's your uncle !

ndwgolf
24-May-2017, 03:26
http://www.kennethleegallery.com/images/forum/FixEyes.jpg

but in the meanwhile it's fairly easy to fix in Photoshop.
HOW
Maybe a step by step instruction would be nice..........i'm a keen learner :)

Ken Lee
24-May-2017, 03:41
In Photoshop, there are often many ways to accomplish something. I used the Burn tool.

In the options bar, select shadows. Choose a small % and slowly darken the areas inside the eyes.

There are many Photoshop tutorials on the web and in books :)

ndwgolf
24-May-2017, 04:02
Fantastic guys..........thank you so so much for your help............My wife is once again butifun
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa414/ndwgolf1/Neils_Photography_April-27-2017_Neils-Photography016-Edit1_zpsltdzdn4p.jpg

Ken Lee
24-May-2017, 04:16
Brilliant !

lindsaywood1991
24-May-2017, 06:47
Maybe She blinked her eyes..