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AnzaRunner
9-Oct-2016, 05:16
It's getting worse and worse. Now even questioning the moderation will lead to your posts getting deleted. I fear for the future of this site. It reminds me of a certain soup related episode of Seinfeld, but DON'T say the word, because your post will be deleted. If you can't have a sense of humor anymore, and you can't question the moderation, you can't have a sense of community.

bob carnie
9-Oct-2016, 07:02
Bullshit You have 45 posts I think you should wait until you have 4500 posts

I think we should be all very grateful that this site is alive and well.

Vaughn
9-Oct-2016, 07:15
Great community here -- because of the moderation, but also in large part because of the members...people willing to take time to help others.

AnzaRunner
9-Oct-2016, 07:22
Bullshit You have 45 posts I think you should wait until you have 4500 posts

I think we should be all very grateful that this site is alive and well.

So my opinion doesn't count? Is there a rule about that?

AnzaRunner
9-Oct-2016, 07:31
Great community here -- because of the moderation, but also in large part because of the members...people willing to take time to help others.

There are indeed some great people here, but I don't think there is a great sense of community compared to other sites. There are those that think everything is fine, and there are those who have seen the sense of community unravel and participate much less. There is less and less middle ground. Look at all the deleted posts and threads. The censorship reminds me of certain governments as they fall into dictatorships. People are afraid to speak their minds, and quietly go along with their daily activities as though there isn't a problem. That is NOT a good way to create a sense of community.

bob carnie
9-Oct-2016, 07:31
So my opinion doesn't count? Is there a rule about that?

Yes it does count, but I would love to see you contribute in a positive way here , rather than taking a stab at some wonderful people with the terrible job of moderation.

Dan Fromm
9-Oct-2016, 07:43
There are indeed some great people here, but I don't think there is a great sense of community compared to other sites. There are those that think everything is fine, and there are those who have seen the sense of community unravel and participate much less. There is less and less middle ground. Look at all the deleted posts and threads. The censorship reminds me of certain governments as they fall into dictatorships. People are afraid to speak their minds, and quietly go along with their daily activities as though there isn't a problem. That is NOT a good way to create a sense of community.

What on earth are you complaining about?

Re having a sense of community, well, why do you think this forum is a community? It is a site for exchange of information on LF photography and that's all. I am not telling you to go away (got that? NOT telling you to go away), but if you want a community, whatever that means to you, this isn't a good place to find one.

AnzaRunner
9-Oct-2016, 07:53
Yes it does count, but I would love to see you contribute in a positive way here , rather than taking a stab at some wonderful people with the terrible job of moderation.


Wonderful people with good intentions can also be terribly misguided, and run a site in a way that is harmful to its very existence.

bob carnie
9-Oct-2016, 07:56
Wonderful people with good intentions can also be terribly misguided, and run a site in a way that is harmful to its very existence.

I do not know how to respond any more other than to say stay for awhile , contribute, and you will see that the mods actually do a good job. If you still feel this way down the road then I would say this site is not for you, and you must leave.

AnzaRunner
9-Oct-2016, 08:02
What on earth are you complaining about?

Re having a sense of community, well, why do you think this forum is a community? It is a site for exchange of information on LF photography and that's all. I am not telling you to go away (got that? NOT telling you to go away), but if you want a community, whatever that means to you, this isn't a good place to find one.

There are many threads in this exact forum complaining about the same thing -- the sense of overmoderation that is making good people leave the forum rather than deal with it. I am part of many forums, and this one seems to be the only one that has this problem. On other forums, people are free to discuss photography without fear of the moderators deleting posts they find objectionable for the strangest of reasons. I even had a post deleted because someone was apparently offended by the soup nazi from Seinfeld.

faberryman
9-Oct-2016, 08:08
With the exception of the recent dust-up over transgender images, I haven't notice much in the way of moderation of any stripe, which is as it should be.

jnanian
9-Oct-2016, 08:10
SNIP SNIP SNIP


There are many threads in this exact forum complaining about the same thing ...

yup, and it is getting tiring every 1-2 weeks having another installment of the anti moderator negative feedback loop.

it is a drag ...

mstrickland
9-Oct-2016, 08:24
Maybe it's time for a new generation large format photography forum, Ben. I'm with you. I've abandoned the forum almost altogether - especially the B/S/T regulations now. There are some great people here, and some very much stuck in their old ways.

bob carnie
9-Oct-2016, 08:43
Maybe it's time for a new generation large format photography forum, Ben. I'm with you. I've abandoned the forum almost altogether - especially the B/S/T regulations now. There are some great people here, and some very much stuck in their old ways.

With 19 posts you have barely scratched the surface here, I encourage you to make the new forum.

Jac@stafford.net
9-Oct-2016, 08:46
So my opinion doesn't count? Is there a rule about that?

Frankly, your opinion doesn't count for much unless it is remarkably original, compelling and constructive; therefore within the spirit of sharing as evinced by moderation.

Vaughn
9-Oct-2016, 09:11
With 19 posts you have barely scratched the surface here, I encourage you to make the new forum.

Bob, I think we need to stop feeding the trolls.

bob carnie
9-Oct-2016, 09:15
Bob, I think we need to stop feeding the trolls.

You are right, making prints right now and in between looking here. I wish the plate burner was faster

faberryman
9-Oct-2016, 09:20
Maybe it's time for a new generation large format photography forum, Ben. I'm with you. I've abandoned the forum almost altogether - especially the B/S/T regulations now. There are some great people here, and some very much stuck in their old ways.

Yeah, an LFF with participants who have no knowledge or experience to pass on. That would be great.

Vaughn
9-Oct-2016, 09:24
You are right, making prints right now and in between looking here. I wish the plate burner was faster

Got to use a 5K watt plate burner last month -- whoa!

rdenney
9-Oct-2016, 09:24
Bob, I think we need to stop feeding the trolls.

Agreed.

Rick "complaints noted" Denney