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Steven Tribe
12-Jan-2016, 02:23
Thought this might be a useful thread - a parallel thread to that in LF cameras.

I have had this for some time but this is the first time I have taken it out and put it to use.

It is a German made reisekamera 24x30 cm. It is the "turn the bellows" type. This means that the rear standard is not square and is therefore significantly slimmer that the usual type. Which makes it ideally suited as cabin baggage as it matches the dimension restrictions of airlines. I usually have an square 18x24cm camera on my winter search for warmth, light and motives, but this has proved just as convenient for transport and use. The sliding lens boards is big enough to permanently mount a sinar/copal shutter on the front, along with an extra panel with a universal iris mount for a selection of lenses.

The front standard has a small flap at the bottom which enables the lens board to come lower down to centralise the optical path.

Jim Fitzgerald
12-Jan-2016, 07:35
Steven, I always love to see different ULF cameras and their designs. The front flap is very interesting. Thanks.

plaubel
12-Jan-2016, 09:29
Hi, Steven,

in my opinion, your camera isn't a typical "Reisekamera", which have always a square back, so I do believe..

Let me show my Reisekamera next time ( have to make some pics first), where I believe that this is a so called Reisekamera.

Here is my 30x40 cm russian FKP lady again; the bellows looks scary, but it works:

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It is a nonfolding version; One can move the back standard by a knob, and the frame can be extended with this "Philips wheel".
Shifting up/down, and left/right is possible:

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The back standard has some tilt function, also in four directions.
The back is turnable, and my GG is surprisingly good.
In this pic I adapted the back to my Reisekamera, because she misses her GG.

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I only have one double-filmholder for the FKP, but it seems to be enough to me.

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Inside I use two aluminium plates, and I always tape the filmsheets onto the plate.

plaubel
12-Jan-2016, 09:30
The camera once came with some russian, orthochromatic and technical stuff which works not so bad today.
It's from a company called Tacma, which still produces film.

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I have someold russian cameras and some german cameras; a comparison shows the very better quality of the german models, concerning materials and hand work.

Ritchie

plaubel
12-Jan-2016, 09:46
First picture of my 30x40cm german Reisekamera onto her selfmade Staffette:

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Yes, nothing to see there, other pics are following soon.
Meanwhile I can only show my lovely 420mm Dagor:

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Randy Moe
12-Jan-2016, 10:18
First picture of my 30x40cm german Reisekamera onto her selfmade Staffette:

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Yes, nothing to see there, other pics are following soon.
Meanwhile I can only show my lovely 420mm Dagor:

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A few more detail images of the Staffette would be nice.

Thank you!

Steven Tribe
12-Jan-2016, 10:19
Yes, most reisekameras are square with the rear tilt with heavy brass fitments. The French were fond of the oblong back with fixed brass catches which makes rear tilt impossible but included front tilt sometimes and the wood is most often walnut. I have a trad. 30x40cm of the usual German type which is certainly not suitable for air travel.

The 24x30cm I illustrated earlier differs in a few other ways. The plate holders are not book type, so I had to make proper metal sheaths to hold film (Fuji green x-ray at present). The focussing (moving the rear standard back and forth) is by a large central knob underneath the base working on a long toothed track - and which worked quite well to-day. Unusually, it has not the brass reinforcements at the corners. This is quite common with cameras (including studio cameras) before about 1890. Later on, these extra brass fitments seem to have become a symbol of quality rather functionally necesary.

I can't garantee it is German, but it bears the plate of the biggest Copenhagen phototgraphic shop and they are known to have sourced their cameras in Germany.

plaubel
12-Jan-2016, 11:49
Randy, here are some more details of my Staffette:

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At the bottom, I can fill in some lenses...

I love the double bellows, supported by a wooden plate with rollers on the bottom, on this old german or russian cameras, and in stretching up to nearly 100cm it may become necessary to support the bellows in any way.

The extra brass fitments shows a bit of the quality of the given camera: my russian versions wear the brass onto the wood, and the brass is into the wood of the the german cameras. Solid work there, really...

Emil Schildt
31-Jan-2016, 09:16
new member of the family.
24x30cm reisekamera with tripod case and three cassettes.
Suter lens and shutter..


ready to go...

Randy Moe
31-Jan-2016, 09:37
Randy, here are some more details of my Staffette:

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At the bottom, I can fill in some lenses...

I love the double bellows, supported by a wooden plate with rollers on the bottom, on this old german or russian cameras, and in stretching up to nearly 100cm it may become necessary to support the bellows in any way.

The extra brass fitments shows a bit of the quality of the given camera: my russian versions wear the brass onto the wood, and the brass is into the wood of the the german cameras. Solid work there, really...

Just caught up with this thread.

Your Staffette is a model of simplicity and flexibility.

I may work on a collapsible one, for street usage. Or a way to pack a camera inside it for travel.

Thanks for the clarification.

Steven Tribe
31-Jan-2016, 10:04
My 24x30 camera suited air travel very well (as cabin baggage) and the lens board was just big enough to mount a sinar/copal shutter in front with an extra lensboard for mounting lenses. I was nervous about the 90 degree rotation of the bellows - but it seemed very robust in use.

plaubel
31-Jan-2016, 10:42
Your Staffette is a model of simplicity and flexibility.

I may work on a collapsible one, for street usage.

For street usage I just need other tires :-)

No, it's not builded for using onto the street; here I will use a normal tripod, but with extra rods ( one or two, I will see) connecting the chassis of the camera with the legs of the tripod.

In the apartment, I don't use tripods anymore, which makes me happy.

Cheers,
Ritchie

Emil Schildt
1-Feb-2016, 13:27
16x20 (40x50) reisekamera.

German?

Steven Tribe
1-Feb-2016, 14:44
Jawohl, Hr. Gandolfi!

To call these "Travel Cameras" is something of a joke!

Emil Schildt
1-Feb-2016, 16:58
Jawohl, Hr. Gandolfi!

To call these "Travel Cameras" is something of a joke!

I know... but with hired help? :)

Grumium
4-Feb-2016, 04:26
Where are all the ULF camera owners?

I would like to share a picture of my Canham 7x17 and myself with you. The camera underwent a few major changes since then and still needs some treatment (weight reduction, more stiffness). I will present the changes as soon as the project is completed.

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=146034&d=1454584637

Pali K
6-Feb-2016, 20:22
Here is mine that I built over the last couple of months.

http://www.netsoft2k.com/Docs/Media/Pictures/ULF/Final/_MG_1425.jpg

Pali

Emil Schildt
14-Feb-2016, 04:13
a couple more ULF cameras...

24x30 NORKA

24x30 German studio camera

and 12x15 Gandolfi Imperial

Randy Moe
14-Feb-2016, 04:19
Is the mirror front OE or your addition?

Great idea for some sitters.

Emil Schildt
14-Feb-2016, 08:04
Is the mirror front OE or your addition?

Great idea for some sitters.

Nope - not intirely sure of its purpose - NOT good for portraits as the sitter tends to look at them selves....

But somebody suggested the mirror was for close up photography as it would prove difficult to set good light the normal way... this was you can get close and still make good light... it has a very long Bellow so close up coule be an option...

AlexGard
29-Mar-2016, 01:44
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Randy Moe
29-Mar-2016, 07:12
Would you please supply a few details about this gear?

Format size, lens and tripod.

Nice jack stand!

cbk
29-Mar-2016, 07:50
https://czarnobialykwadrat.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/sm10x12-2.jpg

10"x12"

AlexGard
29-Mar-2016, 14:07
Would you please supply a few details about this gear?

Format size, lens and tripod.

Nice jack stand!

It's a Chamonix 11x14 on a manfrotto 161mk2b tripod. The lens is a Voigtländer no 7 18" f4.5

I am waiting for a part to be machined up so i can mount my majestic 1200 head. I am actually kind of glad i went for this tripod over a ries. I mean this setup is bloody solid as a rock, especially for the price. Im sure a ries is bettet again bit would have financially ruined me harder than this camera + lens already has :p

angusparker
8-Apr-2016, 17:14
Here is my new (old) ROC King 11x14 circa 1895-1903. You can read more on this super light weight ULF camera here: http://www.piercevaubel.com/cam/roc/king.htm

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I have yet to take it out for a spin - just getting it to attach to my tripod head etc. Can't wait for next week when the weather is good.

Michael Roberts
9-Apr-2016, 15:45
Angus, looks great. Is that a new bellows? Did you do anything to modify the back for modern holders?

angusparker
9-Apr-2016, 19:54
Angus, looks great. Is that a new bellows? Did you do anything to modify the back for modern holders?

New bellows. Back already very slightly modified to allow for modern holder.

Michael Roberts
16-Apr-2016, 09:04
Angus,
Would you please post a photo showing the back modification? I have a similar camera, but mine has not been modified. The rib portion of the holder extends beyond the back so film is susceptible to light leaks. I'd be very interested in seeing how your camera was modified.

Thanks,
Michael

angusparker
18-Apr-2016, 14:49
Angus,
Would you please post a photo showing the back modification? I have a similar camera, but mine has not been modified. The rib portion of the holder extends beyond the back so film is susceptible to light leaks. I'd be very interested in seeing how your camera was modified.

Thanks,
Michael

The modification is quite minor. Someone has cut a small part of the edge of the right side of the back standard away so that the holder slides all the way behind the ground glass.here are some pictures:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160418/00ae574804b0a55ce4982c618f2ac8cc.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160418/f75dc831f60bd626f6a66c200805b5e8.jpg

Michael Roberts
24-Apr-2016, 05:25
Thanks Angus!

Deardorffuser
24-Apr-2016, 11:23
Here is mine that I built over the last couple of months.

http://www.netsoft2k.com/Docs/Media/Pictures/ULF/Final/_MG_1425.jpg

Pali

good camera!)

You can make one more camera for me ?))

Michael Roberts
8-May-2016, 13:58
1899 Rochester Optical Company King 11x14

front rise/fall, front tilt, rear tilt and swing

one of the last 19th century US made English-style folding cameras

angusparker
8-May-2016, 17:12
1899 Rochester Optical Company King 11x14

front rise/fall, front tilt, rear tilt and swing

one of the last 19th century US made English-style folding cameras

Amazing shape - mine looks it's 117 years!

koh303
8-May-2016, 17:27
Amazing shape - mine looks it's 117 years!

I suspect that this one spent less of its life out in the field taking photos, hence the very nice shape, on top of a complete resto.
120 or so years of use will eventually lead to patina... :)

angusparker
8-May-2016, 19:01
I suspect that this one spent less of its life out in the field taking photos, hence the very nice shape, on top of a complete resto.
120 or so years of use will eventually lead to patina... :)

Patina .... True sales speak!

Michael Roberts
8-May-2016, 21:24
The restoration was done before I acquired it in 2011. Somebody did a very nice job. The finish is lighter than on my 8x10, which looks similar to Angus's camera.

Michael Roberts
14-May-2016, 06:16
Rochester Optical King 8x10 with DIY 7x11 back.

As far as I can tell, 7x11 is about the smallest size that meets the minimum qualification for ULF here (13.038+" diagonal).

I've been working toward 7x11 for a while. Now that I have this back finished, I'm hoping to get out and put some film through it soon.

The 7x11 back is intentionally a little thick (1 and 1/4" to the film holder) to prevent vignetting on the 11" side. For longer fl lenses, I plan to add 3" spacers to the back; two of them to extend the camera's original 24" extension up to 30".

Weight with the 7x11 back: 5lb, 4oz., which is pretty darn good for ULF.

Pali K
28-May-2016, 11:19
http://i.imgur.com/iuSa6aU.jpg

Hopefully will be taking this guy out for more trips now that I have a proper bag for it.

Randy Moe
28-May-2016, 11:28
Looking great. Nice tripod, I worked in the factory that built it for about 3 days.

Is the wood waxed?

Pali K
28-May-2016, 11:55
Thank you Randy. As you know, the tripod is a tank and lives up to it's Samson Hercules name :) Must be fun being in the factory where these were made.

And yes, the wood is waxed since the initial build but I will likely do another coat of wax soon to be extra careful. BTW, the bag you see in the bottom of the pic is the gator bag that I suggested. Works great!

Randy Moe
28-May-2016, 17:22
Thank you Randy. As you know, the tripod is a tank and lives up to it's Samson Hercules name :) Must be fun being in the factory where these were made.

And yes, the wood is waxed since the initial build but I will likely do another coat of wax soon to be extra careful. BTW, the bag you see in the bottom of the pic is the gator bag that I suggested. Works great!

The factory was not so fun, hence 3 days.

When my 11X14 is done I will use a Majestic, just because I have it and like it.

Actually lots of Samson tripods show up on Craigslist here as they were made here for decades. Wait, so were Majestic. Chicago was once a photographic and movie center. Then somebody discovered California was warm...

Hdekort
29-May-2016, 06:09
Chamonix 16x20" 2013, on a Narita stand 1888, with a Derogy 24" from around 1852 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/70955734e37190207d6a89d75a98067f.jpg


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Michael Roberts
29-May-2016, 09:45
Way cool, Hdekort. What are you primarily photographing with this studio setup--portraits? Still lifes?

Ahhh...found your site. Great work!

Pali K
29-May-2016, 11:12
Hdekort - wow! What a beautiful setup. Also saw your website and really like your work!

Pali

ScottPhotoCo
29-May-2016, 23:25
Chamonix 16x20" 2013, on a Narita stand 1888, with a Derogy 24" from around 1852 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160529/70955734e37190207d6a89d75a98067f.jpg


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I just really like this portrait of a camera.


Tim
www.ScottPhoto.co

Randy Moe
30-May-2016, 01:39
Yes, it closely looks like an old catalog image.

Timeless.


I just really like this portrait of a camera.


Tim
www.ScottPhoto.co

DrTang
4-Jun-2016, 12:32
Say Hello to my little firiend

http://www.mericphoto.com/lfp/mongo1.JPG

http://www.mericphoto.com/lfp/mongo2.JPG


11x14 Empire State

okay..can I join the club??? the secret handshake?? the decoder ring??? the empty bank account??


picked it up at a garage sale with 3 holders
not a steal..but a bargain as I had to bid against two other interested parties ($500)

now - how do I develop the film? Ideally .... two at a time in a tube (I want nothing to do with trays)

David Lobato
4-Jun-2016, 14:53
Dr. Tang, Wow lovely camera, just like mine. I process my b&w negatives in 11x14 Unicolor print processing drums on a Beseler motor base. They work well, though some will leak a little during processing. You can also put two 8x10 sheets of film in the drums to process. I'd like to see what your film holders look like.

See this thread. http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?131341-11x14-Camera-Light-Leaks

jesse
18-Oct-2016, 13:54
My new Chamonix 12x20 with some old and modern lenses.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5468/29782435663_7fad4d15c7_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8562/29782449453_9b2343ff4e_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5546/29782443293_7c80d435ac_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8136/29782438893_6c05997306_h.jpg

Greg
18-Oct-2016, 16:43
Say Hello to my little firiend

http://www.mericphoto.com/lfp/mongo1.JPG

http://www.mericphoto.com/lfp/mongo2.JPG


11x14 Empire State

okay..can I join the club??? the secret handshake?? the decoder ring??? the empty bank account??


picked it up at a garage sale with 3 holders
not a steal..but a bargain as I had to bid against two other interested parties ($500)

now - how do I develop the film? Ideally .... two at a time in a tube (I want nothing to do with trays)

Also owned and used an Improved Empire State View Camera. I don't think there was/is a more lighter 11x14 out there. Mine was stamped 1910 and was told it was used to photograph Lindberg's take-off... unfortunately no documentation to back that up.

I use Cibachrome 11x14" drums on Unicolor motor bases. Initial Unicolor motor bases didn't include a ground in the plug... trust me just rewire those to include a ground.

If interested PM me: I may have some replacement brass parts for the front standard of an 11x14 Improved Empire State view which are now of no use to me. Attach pictures of the front and side of the front standard so i can ID the parts.

Cor
18-Oct-2016, 23:57
Wow Jesse,

This is very impressive and beautiful ! Please share results !

Heave fun,

Best,

Cor
My new Chamonix 12x20 with some old and modern lenses.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5468/29782435663_7fad4d15c7_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8562/29782449453_9b2343ff4e_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5546/29782443293_7c80d435ac_h.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8136/29782438893_6c05997306_h.jpg

jesse
19-Oct-2016, 08:29
Wow Jesse,

This is very impressive and beautiful ! Please share results !

Heave fun,

Best,

Cor

Thanks Cor, waiting for the film, will share photos later.

Jesse

Milonian
19-Oct-2016, 09:46
My new Chamonix 12x20 with some old and modern lenses.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5468/29782435663_7fad4d15c7_h.jpg



https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8136/29782438893_6c05997306_h.jpg


I probably wouldn't take pictures with this! Maybe just sit and look at it every day......:)

FrancisF
22-Oct-2016, 14:54
This is my 20 x 24 I put together with the rear standard and film holders built by Filip Habert of Prague. The bellows is in three parts and stretches to 8 feet. Yes, those are binder clips holding it together. It has served me well over the last few years. Richard Ritter just built me a new one and I will be selling this one. A nice "starter" 20 x 24.
Francis Fullam
Chicago, Illinois

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Randy Moe
22-Oct-2016, 14:58
What lens are you using?

Can't wait to see your RR!

FrancisF
22-Oct-2016, 15:05
What lens are you using?

It is a Nikon 1210 mm.

Can't wait to see your RR!

james zhou
22-Oct-2016, 19:59
Beautiful Camera! Jesse. I am the 坏孩子 on the QQ forum.

pound
22-Oct-2016, 20:27
Here is my Korona Panoramic View Camera 8x20 on location.
Still trying to get the hang of it.
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Trying a portrait orientation using my majestic tripod head.
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jesse
22-Oct-2016, 22:38
Beautiful Camera! Jesse. I am the 坏孩子 on the QQ forum.

Haha 坏孩子 Mr Zhou :P

Len Middleton
24-Oct-2016, 11:59
Here is my Korona Panoramic View Camera 8x20 on location.
Still trying to get the hang of it.
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Trying a portrait orientation using my majestic tripod head.
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Couple of comments...

My Korona 8x20 Panoramic View came with a rear extension which allows the bellows to extend to about 32 inches (around 80cm), and therefore it can handle some fairly long lenses, if I want.

The Majestic head will likely be able to support the Korona in the vertical position, but I would look at hanging a weight under the centre of the tripod to reduce the potential to overturn the tripod due to the weight imbalance. If you look at those pictures on the other ULF thread about vertical orientation you will notice that they are designed to place the weight directly over the tripod and reduce the potential for it to tip over.

They are nice cameras, and hope you enjoy yours,

Len

diversey
24-Oct-2016, 12:19
Are you the gentleman who showed large portrait negatives when Dennis Manarchy gave a talk in Chicago Photography Center several years ago?


This is my 20 x 24 I put together with the rear standard and film holders built by Filip Habert of Prague. The bellows is in three parts and stretches to 8 feet. Yes, those are binder clips holding it together. It has served me well over the last few years. Richard Ritter just built me a new one and I will be selling this one. A nice "starter" 20 x 24.
Francis Fullam
Chicago, Illinois

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FrancisF
24-Oct-2016, 19:01
Are you the gentleman who showed large portrait negatives when Dennis Manarchy gave a talk in Chicago Photography Center several years ago?


Yes, that was me at his lecture. Mr. Manarchy really inspires me.

I used the camera shown and have posted a few of the pix

https://www.flickr.com/photos/134698201@N05/

Francis Fullam
Chicago, IL

pound
24-Oct-2016, 20:55
Couple of comments...

My Korona 8x20 Panoramic View came with a rear extension which allows the bellows to extend to about 32 inches (around 80cm), and therefore it can handle some fairly long lenses, if I want.

The Majestic head will likely be able to support the Korona in the vertical position, but I would look at hanging a weight under the centre of the tripod to reduce the potential to overturn the tripod due to the weight imbalance. If you look at those pictures on the other ULF thread about vertical orientation you will notice that they are designed to place the weight directly over the tripod and reduce the potential for it to tip over.

They are nice cameras, and hope you enjoy yours,

Len
Thanks Len for taking the time to comment.

I have the rear extension which is a good thing. However I do not have the 2 pieces of wood (bed braces)that connect up the front and rear to make it more stable.

I tried making a L bracket using wood but it flexes too much to make it useful. So I need to find someone who can weld up something solid for me. I actually did not take a shot in the portrait orientation yet, just to test how well the tripod legs and head will hold. A counter weight will definitely make it more stable.

Jim Noel
24-Oct-2016, 21:16
I suggest the use of sandbags to keep the camera from tipping. I use them with my 7x17 and 5x12 Koronas when they are vertical. They provide the comfort of knowing the camera is stable.

Len Middleton
25-Oct-2016, 07:42
Thanks Len for taking the time to comment.

I have the rear extension which is a good thing. However I do not have the 2 pieces of wood (bed braces)that connect up the front and rear to make it more stable.

I tried making a L bracket using wood but it flexes too much to make it useful. So I need to find someone who can weld up something solid for me. I actually did not take a shot in the portrait orientation yet, just to test how well the tripod legs and head will hold. A counter weight will definitely make it more stable.

Yes, the braces do make a big difference, but they would not be complex to make from hardwood, and in fact mine are not original. I can give you some details on mine once I am home and can photograph them or measure them up.

I was looking at a sheet metal fabrication which could be lighter yet sufficiently strong enough, relative to a welded assembly.

Jim's suggestion on using a sand bag makes sense too.

diversey
25-Oct-2016, 08:35
Glad to know, thanks!


Yes, that was me at his lecture. Mr. Manarchy really inspires me.

I used the camera shown and have posted a few of the pix

https://www.flickr.com/photos/134698201@N05/

Francis Fullam
Chicago, IL

TML74
26-Oct-2016, 15:11
Hello from France, here is my 20x24 camera also built by Filip Habert of Prague (or Habart ? I don't remember).
With a 60 cm Heliar... And some pictures taken with this lens and an other taken with the apo ronar CL 1070 mm (maybe by the 24" Artar ?)
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwbakKFeP
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwdw67h0P
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwfXexpoP
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwkO4bCBP

Thierry Moenne-Loccoz.

pound
27-Oct-2016, 03:09
Yes, the braces do make a big difference, but they would not be complex to make from hardwood, and in fact mine are not original. I can give you some details on mine once I am home and can photograph them or measure them up.

That will be great and helpful for me. Thanks a lot.

lab black
27-Oct-2016, 03:38
With large cameras, in addition to sand bags, two, top and bottom, front to rear stabilizers on the standards and an extra tripod under the front standard, when shooting verticals, I also use this very helpful brace made by Lotus.

http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/subs/1sub_accessories_e.html

pound
27-Oct-2016, 06:13
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwbakKFeP
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwdw67h0P
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwfXexpoP
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FJAwkO4bCBP

Thierry Moenne-Loccoz.
Thanks for showing us your camera. The focusing system is indeed quite different.



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TML74
28-Oct-2016, 02:37
The focusing system is indeed quite different.
This is a self made system and I can now focus with a lupe on the ground glass just by turning this...

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A bit long to make and quite expensive but absolutely necessary. Thierry M.L.

TML74
28-Oct-2016, 02:38
Turning this... I mean pictures 2...

pound
28-Oct-2016, 04:11
Turning this... I mean pictures 2...

i get what you meant. the lead screw from the front standard is coupled to another bar that extends all the way to the back standard so that you can focus while at the ground glass. Whatever that works is good :)

Jim Fitzgerald
28-Oct-2016, 09:01
The 8x20 in the Redwoods. I can't believe I built it over 10 years ago and it still looks new.

Andrew O'Neill
28-Oct-2016, 16:58
Looks nice, Jim!

pound
28-Oct-2016, 17:44
The 8x20 in the Redwoods. I can't believe I built it over 10 years ago and it still looks new.
Really a nice looking camera.

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Jim Fitzgerald
28-Oct-2016, 20:00
Thanks everyone. It is getting plenty of use. The light has been amazing but some rain. Great colors. I'm so glad I have 8 holders.

Len Middleton
29-Oct-2016, 07:34
Yes, the braces do make a big difference, but they would not be complex to make from hardwood, and in fact mine are not original. I can give you some details on mine once I am home and can photograph them or measure them up.


As the camera was made in the USA, the design dimensions would be imperial units (inches, not metric), I will use those to describe it.

Overall measurement is about 14" (about 36cm), although the accuracy of that dimension is not critical. The location of the screws that tighten them onto the tripod block look to be 2-1/2" (62mm?), and as you need it to match the slots from your tripod block you could measure it from them. In its thickest part they seem to be 5/8" thick and taper toward the end. The width is just under 1" (24mm).

I have included a 6" scale in the picture for reference:

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Hope that helps,

Len

pound
29-Oct-2016, 08:05
As the camera was made in the USA, the design dimensions would be imperial units (inches, not metric), I will use those to describe it.

Overall measurement is about 14" (about 36cm), although the accuracy of that dimension is not critical. The location of the screws that tighten them onto the tripod block look to be 2-1/2" (62mm?), and as you need it to match the slots from your tripod block you could measure it from them. In its thickest part they seem to be 5/8" thick and taper toward the end. The width is just under 1" (24mm).


Len

Thanks Len, this is very helpful. I would have to find some round head screws or other screws that will fit. I suppose the tapers are more for aesthetic than to serve any other purpose.

Len Middleton
29-Oct-2016, 09:29
Thanks Len, this is very helpful. I would have to find some round head screws or other screws that will fit. I suppose the tapers are more for aesthetic than to serve any other purpose.

I would expect that a straight rather than tapered piece would work.

Wondering whether in place of wood screw, if it might be better to drill a hole right through and have a knurled nut on the bottom side to tight the brace in place.

Good luck with it, and you are welcome.

Nicolasllasera
30-Oct-2016, 01:09
Here is my Chamonix 11x14 with me.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161030/128ff4612fc3f671d3aadc9b272f3997.jpg.

And my talents having a peak at what I was shooting.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161030/f4bdcd436277aa877e842694e44ba3c3.jpg

Monty McCutchen
30-Oct-2016, 05:56
All of us who use ULF ARE the talent!!!

Looks like a fun day of shooting!

Monty

vemo
11-Dec-2016, 10:14
Argentum 11x14 camera and a vehicle.

Jim Fitzgerald
11-Dec-2016, 10:36
As the camera was made in the USA, the design dimensions would be imperial units (inches, not metric), I will use those to describe it.

Overall measurement is about 14" (about 36cm), although the accuracy of that dimension is not critical. The location of the screws that tighten them onto the tripod block look to be 2-1/2" (62mm?), and as you need it to match the slots from your tripod block you could measure it from them. In its thickest part they seem to be 5/8" thick and taper toward the end. The width is just under 1" (24mm).

I have included a 6" scale in the picture for reference:

156731 156732 156733

Hope that helps,

Len

I made a set of these for my 8x20. They are easy to make and give great added support.

Jeffrey Arthur
11-Dec-2016, 12:04
158567 Trying out my Ritter 14x17.

stawastawa
11-Dec-2016, 13:20
That looks like the perfect vehicle!
though perhaps difficult to adjust the front of the camera... do you carry a stool too?

Argentum 11x14 camera and a vehicle.

fuegocito
12-Dec-2016, 10:56
Hi Vemo, Love that front loading bike, hope this is not too far off topic but who makes it?

vemo
12-Dec-2016, 18:42
Hi furgocito, the bike is a Nihola. Made in Denmark.

Steven Tribe
13-Dec-2016, 08:37
Nihola is the Rolls Royce of this kind of cargo/kid transport, but there are many competitors! Up to 100 kilos up front. The link shows Royal use in Denmark!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3427493/Crown-Princess-Mary-braves-snow-cycle-children-school-bitterly-cold-Copenhagen.html

Len Middleton
13-Dec-2016, 09:40
I made a set of these for my 8x20. They are easy to make and give great added support.

Jim,

Indeed they make a big difference with my 8x20 Korona Panoramic View, and stiffen it up a great deal.

As I know you build your own cameras but for clarity, is your comment in reference to one of your own builds, or to a store bought camera (even if the initial transaction took place many years ago, like my Korona did, likely in the 1930's)?

Curious minds want to know,

Len

Jim Fitzgerald
13-Dec-2016, 11:02
Len, here's the deal. About 10 years ago or so I made a comment on one of the forums about building a panoramic camera. I remember someone saying you could not do it without a shop full of tools. So I said the heck with you and I built the 8x20 by hand with minimal power tools. Took a long time. I found a beat up Kodak 2d and used the metal from the camera for the 820. I also found images of a Korona 820 and worked from the images to build mine. I even built the support rails from pictures I had seen. So I built mine based on their design. I put front tilt in mine.
I love the format and the camera is light weight and solid. I'm using it more now than ever.

Jeffrey Arthur
13-Dec-2016, 14:09
Jim you are tough enough, smart enough and stubborn enough to make it happen and you are an encouragement to everyone that with enough fortitude and determination anything is possible.

Jim Fitzgerald
13-Dec-2016, 23:12
Jeffery, thanks for that. I never thought about it that way but maybe you are right. I just love to build with wood so it made sense to me that building my cameras was just something to do. Nothing special, I just needed bigger cameras and could not afford the ones I admired.

If you really want something you can do it. I believe it...... finally. Took a while but anything is possible so long as you put your heart and soul in it. It is why I love carbon printing so much. When I die they will probably bury me in a vat of glop!

fuegocito
14-Dec-2016, 10:50
Hi furgocito, the bike is a Nihola. Made in Denmark.


Nihola is the Rolls Royce of this kind of cargo/kid transport, but there are many competitors! Up to 100 kilos up front. The link shows Royal use in Denmark!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3427493/Crown-Princess-Mary-braves-snow-cycle-children-school-bitterly-cold-Copenhagen.html

Thanks Vemo and Steven for the answer, I have a rear bike trailer to haul around my 11x14. It works fine but somehow I feel the front loading cargo bike maybe more comforting being able to keep my eye on the gears at all time. Obviously it's a $100 solution Vs several thousand dollar option scenario :P

Robert

FrancisF
24-Dec-2016, 13:12
Here is the 20 x 24 I got this fall with its maker, Richard Ritter. In the words of Colin Chapman, Richard approach was to simplify and add lightness. Everything is there for reason and no other reason.

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AlexGard
9-Jan-2017, 03:33
158567 Trying out my Ritter 14x17.
What a lovely looking piece of gear. I was tossing up between ritter and chamonix when choosing my 11x14. I ended up going Chinese but in the realm of my dreams if i ever get the oppurtunity to go larger i will probably go a ritter if he is still making them.



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Jeffrey Arthur
9-Jan-2017, 14:02
Alex I believe you will be pleased. The Ritter is light but sturdy, and the design and movements are a joy.

MAubrey
9-Jan-2017, 14:56
Here is the 20 x 24 I got this fall with its maker, Richard Ritter. In the words of Colin Chapman, Richard approach was to simplify and add lightness. Everything is there for reason and no other reason.

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That's real nice. What lens do you have mounted on there?

John Layton
13-Jan-2017, 05:29
Have seen Richard's cameras up close - very nice! Very light, yet with enough mass to completely quell the vibrations of large shutters, and very smooth.

And rugged? Suggestion...go to Richard's website - find the photo of Richard standing on the middle of a suspended focus bed and answer this: could he do this with anybody else's (ULF field) camera?

FrancisF
13-Jan-2017, 06:41
That's real nice. What lens do you have mounted on there?
That is a 30 inch red dot artar. I also have a 1210 mm Nikkor. For that lens I use a separate large tripod to support it.

Luis-F-S
19-Feb-2017, 13:45
I'd been wanting a Deardorff V11 in good condition at a fair price. I never thought I'd find a mint (basically unused) one at a fair price! I think I already know the secret handshake, my knuckles are all bloodied up from setting it up! It's a beast, makes my V8's look like a toy. 42" bellows with 11x14 and 8x10 reducing backs! The first photo I have a piece of cardboard on the bed so as not to scratch the bed when folded! The bellows is a canvas outer fabric unlike that of any of my V8's. It's a bit stiff from lack of use, but extends all the way out. Ken said that there were 10 of those canvas bellows made in the 1980's, but no pin holes which is all I care about! Now to get some film and more 11x14 Fidelity holders!

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Pali K
19-Feb-2017, 14:23
That's gorgeous Luis!

angusparker
19-Feb-2017, 17:39
I'd been wanting a Deardorff V11 in good condition at a fair price. I never thought I'd find a mint (basically unused) one at a fair price! I think I already know the secret handshake, my knuckles are all bloodied up from setting it up! It's a beast, makes my V8's look like a toy. 42" bellows with 11x14 and 8x10 reducing backs! Now to get some film and more 11x14 Fidelity holders!

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Very clever substituting ULF for a gym membership. I especially applaud your hunger for 11x14 Fidelity Holders as a substitute for bar bells. ;-)

Luis-F-S
19-Feb-2017, 18:10
Very clever substituting ULF for a gym membership. I especially applaud your hunger for 11x14 Fidelity Holders as a substitute for bar bells. ;-)

I'm way too old to start going to the gym now, besides this is much more fun! Now I can use that 30 RDA without the tophat! Luis

JPJackson
20-Feb-2017, 05:56
It is a beauty Luis!

Let me know if you have trouble finding film. There is a fresh box of Fp4+ in my freezer.

Best,
J

Greg
20-Feb-2017, 06:06
Great find... what is the lens?

Luis-F-S
20-Feb-2017, 07:10
Great find... what is the lens?

On it is a 12" Golden Dagor. Also have for it 16 1/2", 19", 24" & 30" RD Artars. Flew out to the east coast Saturday to pick it up. Took me an extra day to get back, but it was worth it! Thanks for all the nice comments!

diversey
20-Feb-2017, 08:45
This is the best 11x14 Deardorff I have ever seen. Congratulations!


I'd been wanting a Deardorff V11 in good condition at a fair price. I never thought I'd find a mint (basically unused) one at a fair price! I think I already know the secret handshake, my knuckles are all bloodied up from setting it up! It's a beast, makes my V8's look like a toy. 42" bellows with 11x14 and 8x10 reducing backs! The first photo I have a piece of cardboard on the bed so as not to scratch the bed when folded! The bellows is a canvas outer fabric unlike that of any of my V8's. It's a bit stiff from lack of use, but extends all the way out. Ken said that there were 10 of those canvas bellows made in the 1980's, but no pin holes which is all I care about! Now to get some film and more 11x14 Fidelity holders!

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Cor
21-Feb-2017, 04:24
looks great Luis !

Just curious, but is it still rigid enough when stretched out?

And what kind of material is the (lower) front standard (the "rough" looking dark grey part) ?

best,

Cor

Luis-F-S
21-Feb-2017, 09:51
looks great Luis !

Just curious, but is it still rigid enough when stretched out?

And what kind of material is the (lower) front standard (the "rough" looking dark grey part) ?

best,

Cor

The rough looking part of the front standard turntable (as in the rear) is painted aluminum which has a "sand" kind of finish. Stretched out it's plenty rigid for it's intended purpose. The rails are so tight, it actually hurts my fingers to rack out the rear rails. I'll probably add a "rubber" cover to the rear knob to try to save my fingers. Probably doesn't help that I'm in Louisiana with high humidity. L

Will Whitaker
21-Feb-2017, 09:59
The rails are so tight, it actually hurts my fingers to rack out the rear rails. I'll probably add a "rubber" cover to the rear knob to try to save my fingers. Probably doesn't help that I'm in Louisiana with high humidity. L

Take a look at the bed of the camera to see if there is any separation. That could cause the rails to be too tight with the resultant difficulty focusing.

Luis-F-S
21-Feb-2017, 10:48
The bed is perfect with no separation. The camera is basically unused and I believe it's just very tight from lack of use. Luis

Will Whitaker
21-Feb-2017, 11:52
Great Luis! Glad that's all it is. Well, that and possibly some La. humidity. I once had a wood field camera (not a Deardorff, but it doesn't matter) completely lock up on me while attempting to photograph outside in southeastern Virginia. Took it inside the house, which was air conditioned and you would never have known there was a problem

Thom Bennett
22-Feb-2017, 08:31
Oh man, that's sweet!


I'd been wanting a Deardorff V11 in good condition at a fair price. I never thought I'd find a mint (basically unused) one at a fair price! I think I already know the secret handshake, my knuckles are all bloodied up from setting it up! It's a beast, makes my V8's look like a toy. 42" bellows with 11x14 and 8x10 reducing backs! The first photo I have a piece of cardboard on the bed so as not to scratch the bed when folded! The bellows is a canvas outer fabric unlike that of any of my V8's. It's a bit stiff from lack of use, but extends all the way out. Ken said that there were 10 of those canvas bellows made in the 1980's, but no pin holes which is all I care about! Now to get some film and more 11x14 Fidelity holders!

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John Layton
22-Feb-2017, 11:08
Luis...I was offered what looks like this exact model of 11x14 Deardorf (green/greenish canvas outer bellows?) back in the '80's - but the expense motivated me to build my own. But the 'Dorff was certainly a sight to behold! Apparently this model was a limited edition - not that many copies.

At any rate...the owner of that particular camera worked in Claremont, NH., and I'm curious - as you'd mentioned flying east for this camera, if it might not be the exact same one?

Luis-F-S
22-Feb-2017, 17:44
Hard to tell, but I don't think so. I didn't fly that far North, more to the mid Atlantic. Supposedly, the person I bought it from bought it new in 1982 and only used it a couple of times. I can believe the couple of times part, because it is basically unused. Ken Hough said that there were 10 of those green canvas bellows made in the 1980's but several of them had trouble and went back to Deardorff for replacement under warranty. This bellows appears to be light tight and shows no wear, and is in excellent shape. It's just stiff and heavy due to the heavy canvas fabric. At some point I will probably order a replacement bellows to have a backup when needed. I have extra V5 & V8 bellows for those cameras as backups. In any case, I'm thrilled to have this camera! Here's a shot of the bellows material:

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Luis-F-S
24-Feb-2017, 15:56
J how about some shots of the 717?

JPJackson
25-Feb-2017, 06:01
J how about some shots of the 717?

Luis,
Will post something next week when I get back to the farm.

J

IanG
27-Mar-2017, 11:45
Finally a complete ULF kit, my first.

An Unknown 12"x10" British Field camera which I bought (off Ebay) from the Grandson of the original owner who still runs the family studio and camera shop, his father was the last person to use it. Luckily I was already restoring some 12"x10" book form plate holders and they fit but the original lens had long gone

Yesterday I found a nice 20" (508mm) RR which more than covers, it would be fine on a 15"x2" camera and is close to covering 20"x16".. Optically the lens is in very good condition but there was no flange - however I've been buying flanges whenever I see them as job lots at good prices (which is not very often) and was surprised to find I had one - a perfect fit.

This is the lens, perhaps Continental European, I bought it off a Polish seller at a Camera Fair yesterday (he wasn't familiar with UK coins and all of his newer other LF lenses were East German or Russian.

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/20in-rr-01.jpg

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/20in-rr-02.jpg

I have 3 or 4 different shutters I can use with this lens, Norka and TP studio shutters ans well as two different Time/Inst roller blind shutter. The camera with a Quarter Plate Houghton Victo for scale !

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/20in-rr-04.jpg

Now I need to hear from Ilford why Harman Direct Positive paper isn't available over 10x8 in British sizes only US :D

Ian

Michael Roberts
27-Mar-2017, 12:51
Congrats, Ian! What a beautiful vintage camera.

How does the front standard fold down?

IanG
28-Mar-2017, 01:27
Michael, the front has two metal rods that run inside the wood of the front standard threaded at the top with a thumb nut and a plate at the bottom that locates under a brass rail. When you tighten the rods the Front standard locks in place, when loose you can slide and position it by hand, you still have front and rear focus as well. To fold you push the standard to the back of the camera where the brass rails finish and the standard is then loose and you can then fold it forward.

This is a half plate camera using the same system, shows it more clearly than a description :D One of numerous restorations awaiting new bellows.

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/halfplate-un07.jpg

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/halfplate-un08.jpg

Ian

Michael Roberts
29-Mar-2017, 05:51
Thanks Ian. So...if I'm understanding this correctly, the front standard comes completely off the rail (so to speak) and when folded forward is only connected by the bellows? Does anything other than pressure from the folded bellows keep the front standard from sliding around inside the camera when folded and closed?

Thanks for the detailed info; I'm building a ULF camera from scratch and am making design selections now. The front standard design is the last bit I'm working on.

IanG
29-Mar-2017, 06:13
Yes the front just sits free when folded but the compressed bellows allow no movement. There are different ways front standards are fitted simpler still is just a slotted fitting like this:

http://lostlabours.co.uk/photography/cameras/images/standard.jpg

You could easily scale that up for a ULF camera, a side strut (or pair of) is used to steady the standard once locked in place. Gandolfi and other used their own Patent fittings, which allow the removal of the front standard but also front tilt. I've a Gandolfo to restore but no photos as yet but the brass lock fittings would be harder to make.

Essentially the 12"x10" I have is quite a basic model from an unknown maker and was used for portrait and group shots, but the front standard fit is not uncommon, I've two other cameras that use it.

Ian

Michael Roberts
30-Mar-2017, 05:32
Thanks again, Ian. Beautiful restoration work on the wood and brass. Well done.

IanG
31-Mar-2017, 09:50
Michael, it's worth looking through the earlyphotography.co.uk (http://earlyphotography.co.uk/site/notes.html) website because there's a lot of details on fittings. The site's always evolving and more being added.

I've still to restore the 12"x10" camera, the bellows were falling apart but the reality was the damage looked far worse than it appeared, hence I was the only bidder and it was only £50 (about $70 at the time). In fact the bellows had come apart where they were glued together. One of the brass plates locking to the rail was missing but simple to make and solder to the rod. Of course there was no GG screen but that was a quick job to make a replacement.

It's down the bottom of my restoration list as it's now fully usable any restoration will be cosmetic. I made one lens board but I'll make a second lens board so I can use my 12" Goerz AM Opt Dagor with the camera as it easily covers 12"x10"stopped down.

I've got one insert to adapt a 12"x10" Book form plate holder to 10x8 and will make more so I can use the camera with Harman Direct Positive paper.

Ian

Michael Roberts
31-Mar-2017, 18:51
Ian, thank you so much for this link--great stuff!

koh303
28-Apr-2017, 11:03
V11 is home.
Photo by Tess Scheflan.
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Thom Bennett
28-Apr-2017, 12:03
Don't get a hernia lifting that thing!


V11 is home.
Photo by Tess Scheflan.
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Carl J
2-May-2017, 20:11
Whoa. Send us some close-up views of the camera -- now that you've seriously whet our curiosity. :)

lxgrd
10-May-2017, 23:40
240mm g-claron on my 11x14https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170511/611c01f6740439b00c001c37e9f21ed4.jpg

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Miguel Coquis
14-May-2017, 06:00
Falz&Werner/Leipzig 30 x 40 cm wooden camera.
I have this for a time, have try to restore it and it is not finish but usable.
Missing knobs have been replace with "linhof color" ones..., not really "esthetic" but works (if someone knows where to provide original brass knobs..., please say it !).
Still waiting for an opportunity to find the original film holders or similar.
Bellows are tight with 1 meter max extension.
Originally, the camera was fit with a 600mm f/7,7 Dagor Doppel-anastigmat (a real jewel).
Pics show a Heliar 420 mm f:4,5 and back has been completed with a 8x10" reduction back until I can find something bigger.
Hope you enjoy.

Miguel Coquis
14-May-2017, 06:02
More pics

Steven Tribe
14-May-2017, 07:51
Welcome to the group of 30x40cm reisekamera owners! In my view, it is biggest which can be managed by one person alone !

The strap is a modern replacement. I have quite a lot of leather which I could use to make a respectable replacement. I have to make one for mysellf as well due to delamination of the layers of leather. I'll post details of mine in a few days.

Getting replacement 30x40cm plate holders is not easy. I have looking for extras for years! And I know there are others on the same mission.

peter schrager
14-May-2017, 16:38
Richard ritter makes holders
Contact him...

Michael Jones
15-May-2017, 06:24
Getting replacement 30x40cm plate holders is not easy. I have looking for extras for years! And I know there are others on the same mission.

I had Filip build holders for me and was pleased with the price & result.

HF large format cameras

https://www.facebook.com/HFcameras/?pnref=lhc


Mike

Steven Tribe
15-May-2017, 12:43
I bought both my 30x40cm reisekameras with enough book style plate holders for my use. And I have got hold a few single wet plate holders since then. Same applies to my similar 15x12" camera. I have nothing against the makers of modern film holders, but their experience, I think, is with the modern standard sizes with front loaded film. In the past, there was little standardisation of dimensions and attachment design. Fortunately, it is possible with a little thought and mahogany/brass work to make modifications.

formatoff
26-May-2017, 09:18
Hello,

It's my ULF toy...

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and with other front standard...

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and with other back (8x20")...

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formatoff
26-May-2017, 09:20
and with stainless viewing mirror...

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Two cameras (11x14" & 8x20") - one base...

Michael Kadillak
26-May-2017, 11:41
I guess this is my day to pick up a new concept. Can you tell he how a stainless viewing mirror works and its advantages? Thanks!

Steven Tribe
26-May-2017, 13:10
Image is right way up. Can be viewed from the side of the camera. Can be designed to be the gg protective cover.

Michael Kadillak
26-May-2017, 15:26
Image is right way up. Can be viewed from the side of the camera. Can be designed to be the gg protective cover.

This is all done with a dark cloth over the camera I assume? Can you perform critical focus on its surface? Have acclimated over the years to upside down images so not sure that is always a added benefit at least to myself. I find the inverted image easier to manage compositionally. Practice I guess makes perfect over time.

formatoff
26-May-2017, 22:53
Michael , Steven,

Of course, it isn't a thing for mandatory using.
Just I tried to make something similar a viewing prism and it's well working with a dark cloth during some test.
I didn't try to use it while cold winter yet...

Yes, I thought about the combination viewing mirror and GG but all ideas didn't suit me because it must be most easy for using with no any additional complications.
ULF has demanded a lot of attention with no new complications.
As the result I have got funny option which may be realised with other formats). Up to you...

Thank you for your attention!

Steven Tribe
30-May-2017, 01:31
The strap is a modern replacement. I have quite a lot of leather which I could use to make a respectable replacement. I have to make one for mysellf as well due to delamination of the layers of leather. I'll post details of mine in a few days.

Whoops, I had a problem with my ixus which is now solved.
The strap is several layers of tough leather which is cut and sewn as shown.

Obviously, the two brass fitments have to be removed (Probably a good idea to check the screws still are OK - especialy iron screws are doubtful when they have been in mahogany for a century!).

John Jarosz
23-Jul-2017, 15:41
Here is my (homebuilt frankensteinish) 8x20 constructed from 2 Kodak 2D's and my 1200mm Nikkor Tele lens. The folding/removable rails are supported at the ends by a long strut which incorporates the 2D tripod block. There is also a provision to attach a monopod/2nd tripod to the front of the strut. The paler wood rail in-between the camera back and the removable rail was built to give additional focal length. I can accommodate about 36" of back focus. The 1200mm Nikkor Tele will cover the 8x20 format, the 600mm and 800mm versions do not. I can't imagine using longer FL lenses.
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coisasdavida
24-Jul-2017, 18:19
This is my 16x20"

https://refotografia.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/img_8830.jpg

I started it a few years ago, shot a test negative last year on the first film holder, but haven't finished all of them and all three backs (8x20" done, 12x16" and 16x20" still need some adjusts)

For reference, mounted on the camera is a 360mm Symmar in a Compound #4

Jim Fitzgerald
24-Jul-2017, 19:31
Nice job. 16x20 is a nice size.

Steven Tribe
25-Jul-2017, 02:15
More photos, please. Very clean design.

What is the purpose of the two top "locking" tabs inside the rear standard? I have similar on my continental reise cameras (a bit more petit, though!), but they fit inside the front standard frame.

coisasdavida
25-Jul-2017, 03:22
More photos, please. Very clean design.

What is the purpose of the two top "locking" tabs inside the rear standard? I have similar on my continental reise cameras (a bit more petit, though!), but they fit inside the front standard frame.

In the beginning and thought that with the camera back and bed parallel when closed, the camera itself would balance better when set on the ground, but the hinges won't allow for that. Now I believe is only purpose is to keep the latch working.

https://refotografia.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/img_6599.jpg

The front frame is a Toyo frame, just because I had a Toyo junk camera here.
The rear standard sits on two small blocks, there are thumb screw underneath that allow for 4 inches of moviment and a little swing.
You can see an additional set of tracks up front on the bed, so the rear standard can move close to the front of the camera (I cut those thinking of making circle images with 14cm Protar f/18 on 16x20", haven't got that far yet).

There are a few more on my blog: https://refotografia.wordpress.com/tag/ulf/
It is all in portuguese, but there is a link on the right panel to translate it.

Ron (Netherlands)
28-Jul-2017, 17:20
Saw your blog; impressive job making the bellows!
What material did you use?

AlexGard
29-Jul-2017, 00:32
That makes the task of building a camera seem much less intimidating. I think my next ulf.camera will need to DIY.

Awesome work


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coisasdavida
29-Jul-2017, 18:00
Saw your blog; impressive job making the bellows!
What material did you use?

inner layer was a man's shirt black cotton
180gsm paper for structure
outer layer was rubberized nylon for backpack making

in the end I wish I had used a stiffer paper, maybe heavier
the bellows was so tapered that it folds very nicely, if it were a straight bellows it would not compress well

AlexGard
31-Jul-2017, 02:25
Family photo of my cameras before the little 8x10 Tachihara gets sent off to begin her new life in the UK.

Tachihara 8x10, Korona 12x20 and Chamonix 11x14

Just received the Korona today. Hopefully will have the materials all ready by this weekend to go out and start making some photos with it.

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RichardRitter
17-Aug-2017, 16:29
The camera is a custom built 11 x 14 for a Boston based photographer that wanted a camera he could take on his bike.
It weighs 8 pounds
Has 24 inches of bellow.

Steven Tribe
20-Aug-2017, 07:05
I have seem to have been unusually lucky in connection with my ULF purchases, both metric and Imperial!

I got hold of a 15x12" Lizars camera in fine condition a few years ago with two OK plate holders. A very reasonable price.
I don't think I have posted this camera, but will do.

Anyway, there was an auction a few weeks ago (very little photographic) with three plates holders - the usual book type with brass catches. These were described as 16x12". I was quite sure these must be 15x12, as it is hard to measure the length because of the extra wood around the handle end. Included was the leather/card/felt-lined case for these holder.

There was a worn lettering on the case saying:

Robinson

Photographers

Dublin

In addition, there was a smaller text under "photographers" reading "& Son".

Robinson was one of Dublin's premier Studio and General Photographers, who was later also active in London.

The 3 plate holder are, indeed, superb quality 15x12" holders. They fit perfectly on the Lizars Camera. The worn leather case, which I almost asked not to sent - postage cost - just need repairs with thread to the stitching. The case is wide enough to accept the camera as well.

Carl J
22-Aug-2017, 22:45
The camera is a custom built 11 x 14 for a Boston based photographer that wanted a camera he could take on his bike.
It weighs 8 pounds
Has 24 inches of bellow.

Wow, that's down from 13 lbs. for the standard model and, I'm guessing, with the shorter rails still acceptably rigid (I hope). Were there other changes to help achieve the low weight?

Dave Wooten
23-Aug-2017, 07:12
Nice

John Layton
25-Aug-2017, 07:47
Richard...WOW!! Especially since it looks from the photo that it still has a horizontal/vertical back? Even if not...very cool!

Jim Fitzgerald
26-Aug-2017, 22:55
Many years ago I had someone on this forum tell me I could not build a camera without a shop full of tools. Well, my first camera was built with a few hand tools. It is my 8x20. Over the years it has served me well. I decided to rebuild her to give her more stability. I finished up tonight. The camera weights 15lbs. and I've got 30" of extension. Now my go to lens is my 360mm Gerogon and I've got lenses that can take me to 24" so I'm good. The last image is of the original camera which was designed after a Korona/Kodak 2D.

Robert Brazile
27-Aug-2017, 08:50
Beautiful, Jim. What are the rear struts: anodized aluminum? As for the brass bits: did you scavenge 2D parts, or duplicate them?

Robert

Jim Fitzgerald
27-Aug-2017, 10:40
Beautiful, Jim. What are the rear struts: anodized aluminum? As for the brass bits: did you scavenge 2D parts, or duplicate them?

Robert

Robert, the rear struts and hinges are from Chamonix camera as is the focusing screw. Anodized aluminum. I kept some of the brass hardware from the original build which was from a Kodak 2D. I had to duplicate some as well. Sentimental I guess.

Barry Kirsten
27-Aug-2017, 13:22
Really nice, Jim. Well done!

Jim Fitzgerald
27-Aug-2017, 13:33
Barry, thank you.

Pali K
27-Aug-2017, 14:07
Jim, that's a beauty! Love it. I am getting the itch to build another camera and may be starting one in 5x7 or 8x20 format.

Pali

Jim Fitzgerald
27-Aug-2017, 15:43
Jim, that's a beauty! Love it. I am getting the itch to build another camera and may be starting one in 5x7 or 8x20 format.

Pali

8x20 is a wonderful format. I have all of my cameras built. 8x10, 11x14, 14x17 and 8x20. I use the 8x10 and 8x20 the most then the 14x17. Something about the presence of a 14x17 image. It is a bear to use but when I get it right it is magic. Still, I love the panoramic format.

thegreatcornholio
28-Aug-2017, 00:08
Recently I've built a stand for my 50x50cm ULF-Camera so now I can show off that big thing!

I think the camera was built around the 1900's, has an adjustable back for a little horizontal and vertical tilt and a bellows extension of 1.8m.

http://www.maximilianzeitler.com/Misc/IMG_4815.JPG

http://www.maximilianzeitler.com/Misc/IMG_4850.jpg

If anybody has a reference to be a bit more excact with the age of the camera I'd be very happy!

Steven Tribe
28-Aug-2017, 01:48
Robert, the rear struts and hinges are from Chamonix camera ..........

Does this mean that Chamonix will provide standard parts to people who ask nicely?

Steven Tribe
28-Aug-2017, 01:56
Recently I've built a stand for my 50x50cm ULF-Camera so now I can show off that big thing!

I think the camera was built around the 1900's, has an adjustable back for a little horizontal and vertical tilt and a bellows extension of 1.8m.

http://www.maximilianzeitler.com/Misc/IMG_4815.JPG


If anybody has a reference to be a bit more excact with the age of the camera I'd be very happy!

I would have called this a 40x50cm camera as the back/ground glass has to work for both vertical/horizontal glass placed in a holder that takes both orientations.

Do you have plate holders - this would give a better idea of date? But you can't be far off with 1900!

Jim Fitzgerald
28-Aug-2017, 01:57
Steven, I'm not sure about that. Hass, the owner of Chamonix and Hugo are personal friends of mine. Hass has one of my 8x20 carbon prints that is in his office I think. I will say that the hinges were the big thing for me. I like the way they wrap around the rear extension arms and hard to make on my own. You can ask Hugo privately about parts but I'm thinking it is just for friends.

Steven Tribe
28-Aug-2017, 02:07
Yes, I realised the personal connection and Chamonix have always been the "good guys", but supplying metals parts might be considered as counter commercial sense!

But the people who are brave and organised enough to attempt own fabrication are hardly the typical Chamonix customer!

Even as late as 1924, it was still possible to purchase brass fitments for DIY cameras.
These were mostly for tailboard cameras and for sizes up to 24x30cm. This is from a catalogue that also included top-end photographic equipment.

thegreatcornholio
28-Aug-2017, 04:08
I would have called this a 40x50cm camera as the back/ground glass has to work for both vertical/horizontal glass placed in a holder that takes both orientations.

Do you have plate holders - this would give a better idea of date? But you can't be far off with 1900!

Yes it is a 40x50cm camera, you are right. The holder is not original but newer, I had to modify the fillet where the glass plate is positioned due there was a delta of about 3-4mm regarding the ground glass.

james zhou
15-Sep-2017, 04:25
After trying various solutions, I finally settled down on an 11x14 conversion back attached to an Arca Swiss. The 11x14 back was from a Frica 11x14. I brought a whole camera and took the back, added an ARCA plate at the bottom. I then sliced the bellows open and inserted a leather section, which allows movement when using a wide lens. To attach it to an ARCA SWISS, I brought a T shaped RRS clamp, and an industrial angle plate to adjust the tilt movement. The result is a very rigid camera, the back is more stable than the ARCA 8x10. By inserting a micro focuser I could add focusing to the back standard.

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blue4130
15-Sep-2017, 07:06
After trying various solutions, I finally settled down on an 11x14 conversion back attached to an Arca Swiss. The 11x14 back was from a Frica 11x14. I brought a whole camera and took the back, added an ARCA plate at the bottom. I then sliced the bellows open and inserted a leather section, which allows movement when using a wide lens. To attach it to an ARCA SWISS, I brought a T shaped RRS clamp, and an industrial angle plate to adjust the tilt movement. The result is a very rigid camera, the back is more stable than the ARCA 8x10. By inserting a micro focuser I could add focusing to the back standard.

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Without getting too off topic, how was the build quality of the frica? I've been tossing around the idea of getting one of their 8x10's as the price seems really decent.

dodphotography
19-Sep-2017, 16:06
Impressive build on this custom 11x14 Ritter.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/34279246ef6801eac8a3bbb0b27f4773.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/2a12d0e8279df8778b1b540fe8f9847b.jpg


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FrancisF
21-Sep-2017, 05:48
Great camera. What is customized about it? What others makers did you consider? Looks new-out -of-the-box. What subjects do you plan to shoot. Enquiring minds want to know.

Luis-F-S
21-Sep-2017, 08:20
Looks to be on an 8 x 10 frame thus the 24 inches of bellows in order to keep the weight down. Normally you would expect 40+ inches of Bellows in an 11 x 14 camera. Interesting that camera was supposedly sold through the classifieds

dodphotography
30-Sep-2017, 16:53
Great camera. What is customized about it? What others makers did you consider? Looks new-out -of-the-box. What subjects do you plan to shoot. Enquiring minds want to know.

Yes, it is an 11x14 built on an 810 bed... hence the weight reduction. It also has several areas that were hollowed out to reduce light.

This camera was listed here but sold through facebook, since the mods changed the rules in the sale section here this place has dried up. No more bumps so posts get lost, fast.