8x10 Riteway Holders?

[ryanmills]

Likely a silly question but did Riteway make 8x10 holders (metal tab)? Tons of Lisco, etc for sale but I can't find any of the riteways. I really prefer those over everything else.

[koh303]

After a certain point in the 80's Lisco/Fidelity/Riteway were all made in the same place, by the same people, using the same materials on the same machines, with a different stamp/style at the end - all owned by calumet.

I think they did not make any 8X10 riteway branded ones.

[ryanmills]

After a certain point in the 80's Lisco/Fidelity/Riteway were all made in the same place, by the same people, using the same materials on the same machines, with a different stamp/style at the end - all owned by calumet.

I think they did not make any 8X10 riteway branded ones.

Yea, there was a difference in the metal tabbed ones at one point but it they must not have made any in the 8x10 size.

[StoneNYC]

Yea, there was a difference in the metal tabbed ones at one point but it they must not have made any in the 8x10 size.

I agree, riteway just seem tighter in tolerance etc.

Ultimately I decided to buy new for 8x10, too many problems with plastic ones, Chamonix, no regrets.

[John Kasaian]

I've never seen any 8x10s nor 5x7s marked Riteway. The older 4x5 Riteways seem to be "bullet proof."

[ryanmills]

I agree, riteway just seem tighter in tolerance etc.

Ultimately I decided to buy new for 8x10, too many problems with plastic ones, Chamonix, no regrets.

Thats excatly why I was hoping to find them, everything just felt better about them.

Any thoughts on the $200+ Toyo holders?

[Oren Grad]

Any thoughts on the $200+ Toyo holders?

See this discussion on olfactory issues:

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?8417-Reeking-film-holders

[ryanmills]

I wont lie, now I want to buy a toyo just to see if its really that bad :p

Well that's interesting and not what I expected to read about. The best thing about the riteway's for me was how tight the darkslides fit. Granted dealing with ten of them is going to be a lot easier then 30+. From time to time I would grab one and slight catch a darkslide and open it. Never happened with the rightways.

[John Kasaian]

I've had pretty good luck with Liscos for plastics.

[StoneNYC]

Thats excatly why I was hoping to find them, everything just felt better about them.

Any thoughts on the $200+ Toyo holders?

I live in an area that has high fluctuation in the temperature as well as the humidity, in wintertime it's pretty bad especially inside, and I was having static issues with the plastic holders, the wooden holders just work better for me for my environment, on top of the fact that they are high-quality. And specifically they have less flexibility so overtime I think that it will last longer versus plastic ones which will bend and flex over time causing weakness in the holder. Since both brand-new holders cost $200 I figure why not get better quality Chamonix wooden ones. Also, their Darkside is much firmer, so if you accidentally press your finger against the slide, it will not bend and flex and scratch or rub against the film, unlike the plastic ones which have that potential.

[Ari]

Any thoughts on the $200+ Toyo holders?

Better if you can find them used, they're just as good as the new ones.
Toyos are among the heaviest holders out there, but I think that they are the best mass-produced film holders available.
Tolerances are very tight and they are built to last.

[James Pierce]

I have new 8x10 Toyo holders, they don't smell. They are heavy, heavier than the Lisco ones I have. In 4x5 size there is no comparison, the Toyo holders are just much nicer. In 8x10 size they are still really nice, but I don't think the difference is a great. Metal dark slides vs plastic probably covers most of the weight difference.

[Alan Gales]

I have new 8x10 Toyo holders, they don't smell. They are heavy, heavier than the Lisco ones I have. In 4x5 size there is no comparison, the Toyo holders are just much nicer. In 8x10 size they are still really nice, but I don't think the difference is a great. Metal dark slides vs plastic probably covers most of the weight difference.

I was wondering about that. The 8x10 holders look different then the 4x5 ones. I've got 5 or 6 of the 4x5 Toyo holders that I bought slightly used. They are really nice.

[James Pierce]

I was wondering about that. The 8x10 holders look different then the 4x5 ones. I've got 5 or 6 of the 4x5 Toyo holders that I bought slightly used. They are really nice.

They both have an extra large opening at the bottom (flap where the film goes in and out) - plus I think the rebate is a bit larger with the 8x10 holders compared to others. I probably prefer the plastic dark slides, bit smoother and less sharp corners at the top.

[Alan Gales]

They both have an extra large opening at the bottom (flap where the film goes in and out) - plus I think the rebate is a bit larger with the 8x10 holders compared to others. I probably prefer the plastic dark slides, bit smoother and less sharp corners at the top.

Thanks James.