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Henry Ambrose
18-Jul-2015, 12:18
Affinity Photo seems like it might be a good alternative to Photoshop. I tried various beta versions and was favorably impressed. I'm not sure as I have not done exhaustive testing but I think it may be a very good and less much expensive alternative.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on Affinity Photo and whether it might be a useful alternative?

bob carnie
18-Jul-2015, 12:29
the video is pretty intense it looks very promising , but I have never used it and I too have interest in others opinions.

I would be concerned about lead in time learning this program, as its taken me years to get a decent handle on PS for my needs, and Lightroom is also something I am still learning as it
gets better.

Do you think Affinity Photo would have a lot of tools that a photoshop user could easily use??

thanks for posting

Sal Santamaura
18-Jul-2015, 16:49
I went and searched for it to see what's offered, particularly curious about whether full 16-bit editing was included. It was. Unfortunately, from the perspective of someone who's not a member of the iCult, Affinity doesn't seem to offer a windows version. If and when one is added, I'd probably be willing to buy a copy.

Old-N-Feeble
19-Jul-2015, 10:00
Too bad it's for MAC only.

Neal Chaves
19-Jul-2015, 16:42
Get the GIMP. It's free and probably all you will ever need. If you think really different (ly), you can install Linux and run many other great free graphics programs like SANE for scanning.
www.gimp.org
www.ubuntu.com

Old-N-Feeble
19-Jul-2015, 17:32
Thanks, Neal. I've tried GIMP and it's okay but not in the same league as PS. I used PS for years in my job but after early medical retirement I can't afford to buy Adobe products.

rbultman
19-Jul-2015, 19:18
Both GIMP and PS are too complex for me. I haven't felt a real need to go beyond Lightroom. I tried Darktable on Linux some time ago. I'd love to go full Linux at home, but there is just enough jankiness about Linux, IMO, that keeps me from using it at home.

Neal, perhaps you can enlighten us on your Linux workflow.

FWIW, I am a long time Linux user and use it daily for software development, mostly command line. It drives my coworkers nuts to see me using vim.

Sal Santamaura
19-Jul-2015, 20:49
I went and searched for it to see what's offered, particularly curious about whether full 16-bit editing was included. It was...


Get the GIMP. It's free and probably all you will ever need...GIMP isn't capable of editing in 16 bits. Maybe someday...

Ken Lee
20-Jul-2015, 14:56
It looks like a nice application but there's no way to download a trial version. I find that surprising. I'll contact them and see if I've missed something somewhere.

Henry Ambrose
20-Jul-2015, 17:55
They had beta versions up for a long time. The final release is only $39.99 on the App store.

Link to App Store preview:

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/Affinity_Photo/id824183456?mt=12&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

And link to Affinity site:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/


I have not given it a complete wringing out but I would definitely consider this over anything CC just from the forced subscription standpoint. The price of Affinity Photo is super right, IMO. And this from a guy who used PS professionally since its beginning.

Ken Lee
20-Jul-2015, 18:59
I got a response on their forum that a trial version will be available in about one month.

Darin Boville
20-Jul-2015, 22:50
Anyone try it with very large files (large pixel dimensions)?

--Darin

jb7
22-Jul-2015, 13:02
Anyone try it with very large files (large pixel dimensions)?

--Darin

I bought it and first impressions are very favourable. My system- Iím running a 2011 MBP with 16gb of RAM, hooked up to an external monitor. You can set the amount of RAM available to the program in the preferences, something I havenít seen under OS X in a very long time. Setting a large amount of RAM, and making use of it does seem to penalise other programs, however, which I discovered while opening up a large image to test. Perhaps large amounts of RAM should only be allocated when necessary.

Using the external monitor, all my palates go on the MBP, and the external monitor is used as the image window.

Digital RAW files are converted by the operating system in OS X; I wonder if this is something that makes it more convenient to develop the program for mac only? I seem to remember that Adobe used to use periodic version upgrades as part of a marketing blackmail strategy, but that you could always open a new RAW file using Preview, if you were on a mac. Perhaps the various Windows offerings do the same now, I don't know. The only time I ever have to interact with PC's is when somebody expects that I might be able to fix them when they go wrong. I try not to spend too much time with them, but obviously, that's a personal preference, and I respect that your personal preference might not be the same as mine. It's a mutual respect thing...

I opened a 2.3 GB 16bit rgb TIFF, and it seems very responsive so far. As an example, I maxed out the size of a brush, up to 4096 pixels, then chose the burn tool and dragged it across a 21,000 pixel wide rgb image- it took about a second for the burn to show, which is an improvement over PS, and huge leap in performance over Aperture.

It seems very comparable to photoshop, though there are still a few things missing- there doesnít seem to be any support for some metadata or file info, for example. The lack of IPTC data means that an image will have to be imported into another program that can append that info, for example. Itís possible to set Affinity Photo as the external editor for Apple Aperture, though saving or re-exporting the image from Affinity doesnít automatically save the image back into Aperture, as it does with photoshop, meaning it will have to be re-imported manually.

The learning curve is not particularly steep if you take a little time to get acquainted with the program. I think that it will improve over time, and according to the website, periodic upgrades will be free. It would be good if they listened to their users and incorporated improvements, I can't think why they wouldn't.

All in all, I would imagine that Adobe should have cause to take note. If they come up with a version for Windows, then I think it could force some sort of reduction in CS prices over time...

jb7
22-Jul-2015, 13:10
BTW- I have tried the Gimp too- and it simply doesn't work on a mac, if you're someone who likes to use all the features. Life is just too short to try to learn the absolutely non-intuitive workarounds, and as has been mentioned, 8 bit images is the limit of its performance anyway.

All in all, and for the moment at least, I'm very glad to be able to break away from the CS subscription model.

BetterSense
22-Jul-2015, 18:52
I am digitally challenged; I generally prefer not to mix computers and photography. To the extent that I do, I use Imagemagick from the command line. This actually works for me to avoid the two hemispheres of my brain from getting in a fight. Clearly a limited set of manipulations is possible but that is working for me at the moment.

ghostcount
10-Nov-2016, 12:00
I went and searched for it to see what's offered, particularly curious about whether full 16-bit editing was included. It was. Unfortunately, from the perspective of someone who's not a member of the iCult, Affinity doesn't seem to offer a windows version. If and when one is added, I'd probably be willing to buy a copy.

Looks like a Windows Beta version of Affinity Photo and Designer are now available for free.:cool: It requires 64-bit Windows 7 and above.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/windows/

From Petapixel (http://petapixel.com/2016/11/10/affinity-photo-now-windows-get-free-beta/)



As with the Mac version, Affinity Photo for Windows will also cost $50 — a one-time payment — when the free beta test period ends and the app officially launches.

jnanian
10-Nov-2016, 13:09
i run a mac, and attempted to use the free trial and decided not to buy their program.

they do have nice videos on vimeo though..

RSalles
10-Nov-2016, 13:26
BTW- I have tried the Gimp too- and it simply doesn't work on a mac, if you're someone who likes to use all the features. Life is just too short to try to learn the absolutely non-intuitive workarounds, and as has been mentioned, 8 bit images is the limit of its performance anyway.

All in all, and for the moment at least, I'm very glad to be able to break away from the CS subscription model.

Henry, Sal, Ken and others,

The beta version - stable enough, I'm using it already there is one year without flaws - works with 8, 16, 32 & 64 bits precision image:

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The Beta version is auto updated every week or so, and I had zero problems until now.
With the image size I'm working - 170-200GB - it's best to have AT LEAST 4GB of RAM - ideal to go to 16GB for fast working,


Renato

Rory_5244
10-Nov-2016, 14:41
Woo! Thanks for this news. I was wondering where to go after Photoshop CS6 as I refuse to pay Adobe's subscription. I wonder if Affinity Photo makes better use of multiple CPU cores than PS does?

ghostcount
15-Dec-2016, 11:01
On sale for $39.99 until December 22.

Ken Lee
15-Dec-2016, 12:13
Thanks for bringing this back to the foreground. It's really promising.

Armin Seeholzer
15-Dec-2016, 13:26
I have it also on my Mac and from time to time I work with it and it will be my future PS. But as long as my payed PS CS6 is running I still work with it! But I decided to start to do all my privat work on Affinity till I get used to it and then I switch fully over to it!
By by Adobe!!! Lost to much money on them the last 2 decades!

Cheers Armin

jnanian
21-Jul-2017, 10:06
some of the things you might be used to 1-click or a radio button or pull down menu on PS
do not exist on AP. "save for web" for example, you need to manually do a 2 or 3 step sequence
about 3 or 4 times and at the time i looked at the program there was no work around ( and it was a pain )
and .. if you do any channel splitting and working with RGB channels for trichrome or whatever else you might use
there is ( was? ) no way to do this with the program in an ez way, it was kind of a pain ...
my experience with their customer service was a real drag.
when i did the "free trial" i was aware there was a forum based knowledge base ( and videos ) so i registered for their forum
and asked my couple of questions ...
the internet is glitchy, their forum was glitchy and my forum use was not approved for maybe 6 + days and no one was able to answer my questions .
when i emailed someone in tech support he tried to help ( but couldn't do much but tell me my validation was and not showing up in the forum )
and when i telephoned support ( i DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU DO THIS ) i was greeted by a brash, obnoxious person who was insulting.
even with a date stamped email chain from tech support he suggested i was for some reason making up that my forum questions were invisible until most of my trial was over.

so, unless you can figure the program out yourself, and have very little need for questions being answered, or customer support its a great program
if you have questions that aren't like " how do you crop an image" "how do you adjust contrast" &c you might be SOL

toyotadesigner
21-Jul-2017, 11:43
I am working with MF and LF format and use Affinity Photo. It is absolutely fantastic, and I really can recommend it.

Affinity Photo (OS X) version runs on my 9 year old 24" iMac with just 6 GB RAM and a SSD. It is fast, precise and does whatever you want. Only drawback is a relatively long loading time of image files from an external FireWire 800 HD. File sizes between 650 MB and almost 2 GB take some time to pass through the FireWire cable. But working with Affinity is smooth and almost in real time on this 'old machine'. Until today I didn't find anything I couldn't do with it... Best of all: It is a pure image editor and not a hybrid like the old Photoline I had installed for a long time, which had too many vector stuff making the interface cluttered and slow.

For 49 Euro you can't do anything wrong.

Just my 2 cents

toyotadesigner
21-Jul-2017, 13:14
If you want more information about Affinity Photo, checke this list of videos:

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/10119-official-affinity-photo-desktop-video-tutorials-200/

On youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejM8Xp06Zug&list=PLjZ7Y0kROWitLXsh6z4Z3qBYCS6xoIXHN

BTW, the former intro video was even better than the new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlWdvjqGlik