HIE notch code help - found film in holders

[Jody_S]

I recently acquired 4 Agfa 4x5 holders, to my surprise they contained film. I cut off a corner, here's the notch code pattern:

128903

A quick search tells me this is Kodak High Speed Infrared. Are there any other possibilities?

The holders have been kicking around for more than a decade, is there any chance this film is still usable, and how much compensation should I give it?

[vinny]

likely not.

[John Olsen]

Last time I used HIE that old I should have just cut up the film for solar eclipse goggles. Try 'em but don't bother driving too far from home.

[Jody_S]

I just checked the rest of the stuff I got from the same guy, the box of 8x10 T-Max 100 expired in 2004. It was refrigerated, he was/is a decent commercial photographer. I would wager he knew what was in these holders and kept them in his fridge.

It's actually the 2nd time I've bought from him, I got ~500 sheets of various 5x7 emulsions from him 3 years ago, which were all ok aside from base fog on the ancient Tri-X that he bought off another photographer when he started out (expired mid-80s, was still usable). I have a feeling I'll be able to get something from these. I have nothing to lose, he just threw everything on his table into a box at the end of the day and offered it to me for $50, and I've already made $200 off it without touching the Nikon gear (mint F2 + 50mm micro-nikkor).

[DG 3313]

It looks like Trix-320 (2008ish).......


I recently acquired 4 Agfa 4x5 holders, to my surprise they contained film. I cut off a corner, here's the notch code pattern:

128903

A quick search tells me this is Kodak High Speed Infrared. Are there any other possibilities?

The holders have been kicking around for more than a decade, is there any chance this film is still usable, and how much compensation should I give it?

[Paul Cunningham]

There was another thread about this in the last couple months and it turns out that the notch codes (HIE and TX320) are nearly identical. But the color of the emulsion looks a bit like HIE to me.

[Paul Cunningham]

Here is the other thread:
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?117275-Notch-code-ID-question&p=1180338&viewfull=1#post1180338

[Jody_S]

There was another thread about this in the last couple months and it turns out that the notch codes (HIE and TX320) are nearly identical. But the color of the emulsion looks a bit like HIE to me.

Thanks everyone. I believe I have a box of TX 320 in the fridge, I'll cut the corner off one sheet and compare.

I didn't realize Kodak recycled their notch codes, which is pretty stupid if you ask me. I was trying to find notch code charts for other manufacturers.

[Jody_S]

I have just checked with my box of 320TXP, the film is identical. And then I remembered that I got the box of 320TXP from the same guy, so I think it's a pretty definitive clue that the film in the holders is 320TXP.

[Paul Cunningham]

128935this is HIE. It's close, but not what you have.

[Sevo]

Worse, Plus-X is similar as well - you really have to go by spacing. Three triangular and one rectangular may have been used as the generic "black and white" signature for the entire generation of Kodak films, with the spacing for speed and type.

[Jody_S]

I initially went by the notch codes here (http://digitalprankster.com/code-notch/).

Unfortunately, 320TXP wasn't on the list, I gather the product was developed after the Kodak chart on that page was made.

[Jim Jones]

The 1976 Kodak Professional Black-and-White Films agrees with Paul about HIE, and shows Kodak Royal-x Pan Film 4166 with the more closely spaced V-notches as Jody posted.

[StoneNYC]

128935this is HIE. It's close, but not what you have.

Yes the spacing here is different, look close, here he space between peaks of the notches are identical on the OP image the V spaces are tighter together then the final rectangle notch peak distance.