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Heroique
20-Dec-2014, 13:56
If you're an "LF Gentleman," which character traits spring first to mind?

And if you're not, what gentlemanly behavior do you notice in those who are? ;^)

The LF Gentleman:

1) is ever-curious about the aims/experiences of other photographers (of any format) when met in the field, but remains mindful of their probable need for space and quiet.

2) [?] ...

bob carnie
20-Dec-2014, 14:09
I do not invite anyone under the darkcloth if I have gas after a bean salad

Richard Wasserman
20-Dec-2014, 14:19
A LF Gentleman brings beer

scheinfluger_77
20-Dec-2014, 14:45
The LF Gentleman is an ambassador/evangelist for film photography, ever ready to kindly advocate for greater film usage.

Heroique
20-Dec-2014, 14:55
Good traits so far -- I like the idea of the LF Gentleman being a good-will "ambassador" of film.

Another trait that occurs to me:

The LF Gentleman respects and tries to understand the light, whether it cooperates or not!

Preston
20-Dec-2014, 15:05
An LF gentleman is only grumpy around his wife. :D

An LF gentleman cheerfully offers suggestions to another photographer if they ask.

--P

Randy Moe
20-Dec-2014, 15:21
There is a group that promotes 'Distinguished Gentleman's Ride', where they request all motorcyclist wear suits and ride classic bikes. They raise money for prostate cancer research. Worldwide, this year only, so far $1.5M.

http://www.gentlemansride.com/ for images and charity.

I am not a member of that group.

However, it's not a bad idea for LF users.

A gentleman is always polite and seeks to converse in a manner understandable to all.

danno@cnwl.igs
20-Dec-2014, 16:19
I do not invite anyone under the darkcloth if I have gas after a bean salad

My darkcloth isn't big enough for that to be a problem, but I avoid giving access after my onion+garlic+mayo sandwich...:)

Mark Sawyer
20-Dec-2014, 16:31
As a golfer replaces his divots, so a gentleman large format photographer fills in his tripod holes...

richardman
20-Dec-2014, 16:34
A LF photographer could be a woman, just sayin'

Mark Sawyer
20-Dec-2014, 16:38
A LF photographer could be a woman, just sayin'

All the more reason to be a gentleman.

Heroique
20-Dec-2014, 16:42
As a golfer replaces his divots, so a gentleman large format photographer fills in his tripod holes...

I was about to say the LF Gentleman leaves nothing behind but footprints and tripod holes, but if he covers them up before departing his shot location, he's also a Saint!

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If the LF Gentleman discovers archaeological treasures while in the field, he doesn't disturb them and reports their location to the ranger's office.

The LF Gentleman might use an axe or chainsaw to remove fallen trees from forest roads, but not to remove trees or branches that are inconvenient to his image.

Jmarmck
20-Dec-2014, 16:44
A LF Gentleman sees that which escapes others, even if it is not visible.

Mark Sawyer
20-Dec-2014, 17:02
A gentleman large format photographer turns off his cell phone when he enters a landscape...

John Kasaian
20-Dec-2014, 17:36
An LF Gentleman will invite curious spectators to see the world upside down and backwards.
An LF Gentleman always appears to be enjoying what he's doing.

Ari
20-Dec-2014, 19:09
Offers advice, tips and information freely, and pays for his own drinks.

David Lobato
20-Dec-2014, 20:10
A LF photographer shares his lens cleaning fluid, a.k.a. vodka.

Vaughn
20-Dec-2014, 20:17
A gentleperson photographer will always have his or her business card available.

He or she gives advice only when asked, or will inquire if any advise is welcomed before offering it.

He or she will only give critizism of someones work if requested, and if asked, give only positive, constructive comments.

Randy Moe
20-Dec-2014, 21:17
A gentleperson photographer will always have his or her business card available.

He or she gives advice only when asked, or will inquire if any advise is welcomed before offering it.

He or she will only give critizism of someones work if requested, and if asked, give only positive, constructive comments.

Best yet.

Tim Meisburger
20-Dec-2014, 21:47
When I think of the LF gentleman (especially Mark and Jim Galli), I have a mental image of an old video--ZZ Top, Sharp Dressed Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRHBLwpASw)

Vaughn
20-Dec-2014, 22:00
I happened to be in Christchurch when ZZ Top was in town for a concert. I had a few people double take on me, and one asked, but my beard was really not that long!

And thank you, Randy.

Alan Gales
21-Dec-2014, 00:32
A large format gentleman always holds his pinky finger up while pulling the dark slide or is that while drinking tea? I keep forgetting!

koh303
21-Dec-2014, 06:18
A LF photographer could be a woman, just sayin'

You are kidding right?

(Disclaimer: Present lovingly, with a smile/wink, no offence intended and not directed at anyone in particular :)

My top 10:
1. White
2. MALE
3. American (as in, US of A)
4. Middle aged or older
5. Over confident
6. Pretentious (and thus knows more then others, and can assume things)
7. Knows so much more then everyone else that he can presume to offer advice (courteously or otherwise)
8. Would self define as a moderate liberal, but is OK with various contradictions like "light" or obscured/embedded racism and or sexism
9. Is not a woman
10. Auto didactic artist

...if one was to read this forum as an nonparticipating stranger.

Jody_S
21-Dec-2014, 07:17
When I think of the LF gentleman (especially Mark and Jim Galli), I have a mental image of an old video--ZZ Top, Sharp Dressed Man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRHBLwpASw)

That's not the video that came to my mind when thinking of the top 10 character traits of LF gentlemen. I present: BBC 2's series Grumpy Old Men, the Christmas special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o0I1FaegV0

matthew blais
21-Dec-2014, 11:30
Having worked with Bob for a week, I can say that his fartulence is not limited to "under the cloth"

That said, a Gentleman LF Photographer never tells


I do not invite anyone under the darkcloth if I have gas after a bean salad

hoffner
21-Dec-2014, 12:56
Having worked with Bob for a week, I can say that his fartulence is not limited to "under the cloth"

That said, a Gentleman LF Photographer never tells

Sometimes I wish the American cultural streak were not prevalent on this forum.

Heroique
21-Dec-2014, 13:53
Another key trait:

The LF Gentleman who reads a rule-breaking post about politics or religion passes over it with amused silence. ;^)

Randy Moe
21-Dec-2014, 14:05
Takes one to know one.

Richard Wasserman
21-Dec-2014, 15:15
As a LF Gentleman I of course was raised to appreciate the value of doing no actual work, which is why my valet pushes the shutter release.

Heroique
21-Dec-2014, 15:47
As a LF Gentleman I of course was raised to appreciate the value of doing no actual work, which is why my valet pushes the shutter release.

Sounds like the "LF Aristocrat" to me. :cool:

Reminds me of my female assistant who carries the picnic basket, wine bottle, and glasses.

In view of the gender-related comments above, I'll call her the "LF Gentleman's Lady."

Heroique
21-Dec-2014, 15:55
Another trait from the LF Gentleman's Handbook:


The LF Gentleman doesn't cease being one, just because he carries his camera into remote areas where there's nobody else around. Call it wilderness etiquette.

For example, the LF Gentleman hiker who comes upon a rock cairn thinks hard about whether to topple it or not, because there are good reasons and bad reasons for doing so.

In a more general sense, the LF Gentleman thinks before doing, when alone or with others.

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No surprise, the illustrations in this handbook show a lot of LFers with well-groomed, finely trimmed beards.

arca andy
9-Jan-2015, 09:38
A LF gentlemen respects Queen, country, school and family (in that order), is polite to all, even foreigners despite their lack of breeding and moral fibre. He uses the the word 'love' only when talking about dear old nanny, he never runs unless playing rugby. He does not wear brogues in Town, they are, of course, a country shoe. He will be brave in all situations, especially when the members of the National Trust are trying to stopping him taking photos of the old Westmorland place, ' I knew Charles at school, confound it!' He will only be drunk, swear and fraternise with women when the ladies are not present...
I could go on but, above all, the LF gentleman will be wearing Tweed as he shoots, Harris of course....Well, except in town obliviously!

John Kasaian
9-Jan-2015, 09:48
One thing that has always impressed me is that notable pro LF photographer's I've had the good fortune to meet are extraordinarily generous and supportive of us newbies. Merg Ross, John Sexton, Ansel Adams, Peter Gowland and many others have impressed me as being true gentlemen of the first order.

Then again there have been some cantankerous old coots, but they aren't geramine to this thread.:rolleyes:

fishbulb
9-Jan-2015, 11:01
You are kidding right?

(Disclaimer: Present lovingly, with a smile/wink, no offence intended and not directed at anyone in particular :)

My top 10:
1. White
2. MALE
3. American (as in, US of A)
4. Middle aged or older
5. Over confident
6. Pretentious (and thus knows more then others, and can assume things)
7. Knows so much more then everyone else that he can presume to offer advice (courteously or otherwise)
8. Would self define as a moderate liberal, but is OK with various contradictions like "light" or obscured/embedded racism and or sexism
9. Is not a woman
10. Auto didactic artist

...if one was to read this forum as an nonparticipating stranger.

This is probably true about photography in general, and most photography forums. Much has been written about the over-abundance of the "white male perspective" in photography - e.g. here (http://blog.photoshelter.com/2013/09/photographys-old-white-guy-problem/).

I know it's a joke, but it's really a 8-item list, with #2/#8 and #6/#7 being the same. To replace those I would add "relatively wealthy by a global standard", and "often more interested in the technology of photography than the art".

<seinfeld>Not that there's anything wrong with that!</seinfeld> ;)

Vaughn
9-Jan-2015, 11:46
My top 10:
1. White
2. MALE
3. American (as in, US of A)
...

I do not think a true gentleperson would consider race, gender, or nationality as 'character' traits.

neil poulsen
9-Jan-2015, 12:15
A true LF gentleman will usually have photographic expenses that exceed his photographic income.

DrTang
9-Jan-2015, 12:25
A true LF gentleman will usually have photographic expenses that exceed his photographic income.


hahahaha

well said...well said

koh303
9-Jan-2015, 13:12
I do not think a true gentleperson would consider race, gender, or nationality as 'character' traits.

Nevertheless - they are such, and fishbulb said it and posted this link you should read:
http://blog.photoshelter.com/2013/09/photographys-old-white-guy-problem/
Can't be helped, espcecially in light of such threads as the "why are they nudes" and even better "not pornographic, but naked for our amusement small format nudes, by men only of naked women only", not to mention the title of this thread - gentle MAN leading to a sheer lack of female participants. It's no wonder.

Heroique
9-Jan-2015, 13:44
I do not think a true gentleperson would consider race, gender, or nationality as 'character' traits.


Nevertheless - they are such, and fishbulb said it and posted this link you should read:http://blog.photoshelter.com/2013/09/photographys-old-white-guy-problem/ …

Vaughn is correct in pointing out #1-3 are not personal character traits.

They are demographic trends.

BTW, I enjoyed the humor of your post, and your link is very interesting and worth a read by everyone.